【鍵盤俠】LBJ、獺兔當選月最佳|再次感嘆安吉眼光之毒辣!

2020-12-10 直播吧

LeBron James and Jayson Tatum were just named West and East Player of the Month by the NBA

NBA官方公布2月份東西部最佳球員得主,凱爾特人前鋒塔圖姆和湖人球星詹姆斯分別當選。

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[–]Raptors Cheechers23 459 指標 10小時前

And so ends Giannis's POTM streak

猛龍球迷:這就終結字母哥的本賽季月最佳三連了。

[–][MIL] Tony Snell ferret50cal 325 指標 9小時前*

For comparison:

Giannis: 28.3/17/6.4 on 62.1 TS%. Bucks went 9-0 in games Giannis played (10-1 overall). (also holy shit 17 boards)

Tatum: 30.7/7.9/3.2 on 63.7 TS%. Celtics went 9-3.

They both had fantastic months. Not super surprised Tatum won, since Giannis had won nearly every ECPOTM since last year so there's gonna be a bit of voter fatigue. (edit: Since the start of the 2018-19 season, Giannis had won 7 of 8 ECPOTM, with Embiid winning January 2019)

雄鹿球迷:對比下:

字母哥上月:場均28.3分17板6.4助,真實命中率62.1%。字母哥出場的比賽9勝0負(整體10勝1負)。

塔圖姆上月:場均30.7分7.9板3.2助,真實命中率63.7%。凱爾特人9勝3負。

他倆上個月都打得很好。塔圖姆當選也不是很奇怪,畢竟字母哥從去年起基本包攬了這個獎,所以會有點審美疲勞。(編輯:從18/19賽季開始,字母哥已經拿到了前面8個月最佳中的7個,19年1月東部最佳被恩比德拿了)

[–]Spurs SnuggleMuffin42 13 指標 7小時前

31 points on 64 TS% is just insane, Tatum is on fire wtf

馬刺球迷:場均31分還能有近64%的真實命中率,這也太厲害了吧,塔圖姆真是火力全開

[–]Nets Bigbadbuck 198 指標 9小時前

If it's that close they're gonna give it to the new guy.

籃網球迷:如果兩人數據很接近的話,聯盟會把獎給新面孔的

[–][MIL] Tony Snell ferret50cal 102 指標 9小時前

Yeah exactly. I'd argue Giannis has a slight edge (points are similar, rebounds and assists quite a bit higher, plus team record), but Tatum is basically the first guy to make it remotely close since last season (Embiid won January, Giannis won every other month). Tatum definitely deserves it.

雄鹿球迷:對的。我覺得字母哥是有點優勢的(得分接近,他的籃板和助攻都高不少,還有球隊戰績),不過塔圖姆基本是從上賽季到現在最為接近字母哥的人。他絕對配得上這個獎。

[–]junkit33 26 指標 9小時前

It's good for the league to hype up young stars. Giannis is going to get the MVP and wins the POTM constantly anyways.

這有助於聯盟為年輕球星造勢。反正字母哥要拿MVP了,而且月最佳也沒少拿。

[–]Warriors TheseMods_NeedJesus 25 指標 7小時前

Lmao it’s not close. Giannis had 10 more boards

勇士球迷:呵呵呵呵,他倆的數據可不算接近。字母哥的籃板多了近10個

[–]Celtics absynthe7 21 指標 8小時前

Tbh, this probably has more to do with voter fatigue than Tatum actually outperforming Giannis. Or maybe people are holding the two games he missed against him.

Like... they play the same position, and Tatum had a great month, but Giannis put up the type of numbers Prime MVP Shaq did. Giannis should've won and it shouldn't be close.

凱爾特人球迷:說真的,這個最佳其實無關塔圖姆的表現超出字母哥,而是投票疲勞。要不就是因為字母哥缺席了兩場比賽。

這麼說吧……他倆的位置是一樣的,塔圖姆上個月打得非常好,可是字母哥打出了巔峰MVP奧尼爾級別的數據。字母哥是可以當選的,而且他倆的差距也不算小。

[–]Celtics Adam0529 13 指標 8小時前

did schedule strength play part?

Idk how was the Bucks schedule, but Celtics had a tough month and JT performed against the elite of the league

凱爾特人球迷:與賽程強度有關不?

雄鹿的賽程我不清楚,不過凱爾特人上月的比賽不好打得,塔圖姆的對手很多都是聯盟頂級

[–]HolyGig 3 指標 6小時前

Nobody is claiming Tatum is better lol. If pure stats are the only thing that matters lets just give it to Giannis for the next 5 years and call it a day

也沒人說塔圖姆上月表現更好啊,哈哈哈。要是只以純數據為評獎依據的話,那乾脆把今後五年的月最佳都給字母哥算了,沒得玩了。

[–]Celtics LambdaLambo 48 指標 8小時前

17 rebounds jesus christ. That man terrifies me so much. The Bucks imo are still so slept on, no one talks about them like they're having one of the greatest seasons of all time, despite having one of the greatest seasons of all time. Everyone thinks its wide open but man I just don't think so.

I really hope everyone is right and the Bucks won't be so unstoppable in the playoffs but I just don't see it.

凱爾特人球迷:我的天吶,場均17板!這個男人真是嚇到我了。我覺得大家依然沒把雄鹿當回事,他們打出了史上最強賽季之一,可是沒什麼提。人人都覺得爭冠局面很開放,可我不這麼看

我也希望大家的想法是對的,希望雄鹿到了季後賽沒那麼無敵,可我真不這麼認為。

[–]Celtics BartolosWaterslide 16 指標 8小時前

I think people are sleeping since the bottom of the East is still trash, Giannis is easily MVP though

凱爾特人球迷:我覺得吧,大家之所以不把雄鹿當回事是因為東部墊底的那些對太垃圾了,不過字母哥衛冕MVP是很輕鬆的。

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[–][HOU] Yao Ming keenan-kun 149 指標 10小時前

grats to tatum, dude deserved it. boston's future is extremely bright with the jays

火箭球迷:祝賀塔圖姆,實至名歸啊。有雙傑(傑森、杰倫)壓陣,波士頓未來可期啊

[–]Mavericks PippyLongPooping 30 指標 10小時前

Tatum is so exciting for the future. He recently talked about a confidence shift, which is always the trigger to becoming one of the best

獨行俠球迷:塔圖姆真的是前途無量。他近期談到了自己信心的轉變,一般這就是步入頂級行列的刺激因子。

[–]West HappyCrabDay[ ] 66 指標 9小時前*

It still amazes me Boston had the foresight to trade away the #1 pick for him. Fultz was considered the clear-cut top draftee at the time, and many considered him a generational talent at the time.

我到現在還是覺得波士頓當初開了天眼一樣神奇,居然把狀元籤送出去換來塔圖姆(探花籤)。富爾茨當時在那屆新秀裡可是被看作是天賦明顯溢出的頂級新秀的,而且很多人還一度覺得他是劃時代的天才。

[–]East danielbauer1375 2 指標 5小時前

I don’t buy that. If Fultz was considered a generational talent, there’s a generational talent in every single draft. The only three generational talents since LeBron, IMO, are Greg Oden, Anthony Davis, and Zion. You could make an argument for Ben Simmons given his size combined with his unique skill set, but that’s it. Plenty of people liked Lonzo more. When it comes to generational talents, they are the clear cut number one pick without any doubt.

這種話我不是不信的。要是富爾茨當時都能被看作是劃時代的天才的話,那每屆選秀都有一個這種級別的天才。自從老詹之後,我覺得,能稱得上劃時代天才的只有奧登、戴維斯和錫安。你也可以說西蒙斯,畢竟他的身高和獨特的技術擺在那兒,不過也就這了。大多數新秀都是鮑爾那個路子。你要說劃時代天才,那他必須得是無可爭議的超出同輩一大截的狀元郎。

[–]junkit33 62 指標 9小時前

Fultz had a disastrous workout with Boston while Tatum's was legendary. I'm certain Ainge trusts his own evaluation over the scouts.

富爾茨當時在凱爾特人的試訓表現堪稱災難,而塔圖姆卻很好。我覺得,比起球探的眼光,安吉更相信自己的判斷。

[–]Celtics iAmTheRealLange 39 指標 8小時前

Ainge was looking at Tatum when he was in high school. He had him high on his board for a while

凱爾特人人球迷:塔圖姆高中的時候就被安吉盯上了。他早就進入了安吉的視野。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant crucedickinson 7 指標 6小時前

I mean, most people did. Tatum was widely considered to be in contention for the #1 pick in his class when he was in high school. Considered a top prospect coming out.

Still, Ainge clearly knew what he was seeing before others did.

湖人球迷:很多人都是這樣。塔圖姆還在高中的時候,就被很多人看作是17屆新秀中的狀元籤候選。大家當時就覺得一個頂級新秀呼之欲出。

不過話說回來,安吉的眼光明顯是比其他人更毒。

[–]Wizards JohnWalI 27 指標 10小時前*

Was hoping Bradley Beal would get some recognition

11 games averaging 36.2 PPG on 47% shooting smh

奇才球迷:我還以為月最佳會考慮考慮比爾呢。

哎,他上個月11場比賽場均36.2分,命中率47%

[–]Celtics Confirmation__Bias -2 指標 10小時前

Tatum averaged 31/8 on 49% shooting and 48% from 3 and won 9 out of 12 of his games, how many did Beal win?

凱爾特人球迷:塔圖姆場均31分8板,命中率49%,三分命中率48%,12場比賽贏了9場,比爾拿啥當選?

[–]blacknerd502 3 指標 6小時前

Bradley Beal gets no love bc his team is so trash

比爾沒人愛,因為奇才菜

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[–]erikspoelstra 16 指標 10小時前

Year 17 and the GOAT is still dominating his conference

第十七個賽季,這個史上最佳依然在他的分區打出了統治力

[–]Celtics _dumbSLOTH 241 指標 9小時前

Anyone else surprised Russ didn’t win?

凱爾特人球迷:有人對威少沒當選感到奇怪嗎?

[–]Rockets sorendiz 112 指標 9小時前

Disappointed but not surprised, I generally expect the worst and am sadly proven right often

火箭球迷:失望,不過不奇怪,我都做好了最壞的準備,可悲的是,結果常常很配合

[–]Celtics nrj6490 29 指標 9小時前

Thought he should』ve taken it

凱爾特人球迷:我以為威少能當選西部月最佳

[–]Clippers tylerjehills 417 指標 10小時前

Russ snubbed hard

凱爾特人球迷:威少被陰慘了

[–]Lakers yungtatha 7 指標 10小時前

I was sorta expecting Westbrook tbh

湖人球迷:說真的,我也以為是威少拿

[–]Celtics Adam0529 15 指標 8小時前

yea he had a phenomenal month.

凱爾特人球迷:對啊,他上月表現是現象級的

[–]h723456 36 指標 10小時前*

I like LeBron but Russ should』ve gotten it.

我喜歡詹姆斯,不過這獎應該是威少的

[–]Mavericks Bestgirlwin 7 指標 7小時前

Yeah. The NBA is really trying to make Lebron MVP this season.

獨行俠球迷:是啊,NBA這真是在促成老詹拿下這賽季的MVP啊

[–]Kings andrey1793 32 指標 7小時前

I don’t get why everyone thinks LeBron doesn’t belong in the conversation with Giannis. He has the most drastically positive impact on his team while playing than anyone on the league. By far.

國王球迷:我就搞不懂了,為啥很多人都覺得老詹不能和字母哥爭MVP。他對湖人的正面影響力之大超出了其他任何人。

[–]kbthroaway723 15 指標 7小時前

MVP has turned from most valuable to just best stats and storyline. Obviously if we’re looking at only value to team, Lebron is more valuable than Giannis. The Bucks play in the East and would still easily make the playoffs without him.

而且MVP這個獎項已經從最有價值轉變成了只注重最佳數據和情懷。很顯然,如果我們只看球員對球隊的價值的話,老詹的價值比字母哥更高。雄鹿畢竟是在東部,要是沒有字母哥,他們也能輕鬆打進季後賽

[–][HOU] Rafer Alston anupvoteforyou 57 指標 8小時前

LeBron per game in February: 26.0 points (49.7% shooting, 36.0% on 3s), 10.1 assists, 8.1 rebounds, 0.8 steals

Russell Westbrook: 33.4 points (54.9% shooting, 40.0% on 3s), 6.0 assists, 7.3 rebounds, 1.8 steals

Both teams were 9-2, and the Rockets won by double digits at LA.

火箭球迷:詹姆斯二月場均:26分(命中率49.7%,三分命中率36%)10.1助8.1板0.8斷

威少二月場均:33.4分(命中率54.9%,三分命中率40%)6助7.3板1.8斷

兩隊戰績都是9勝2負,而且火箭還在湖人主場贏了兩位數

[–][TOR] Tracy McGrady acidfalconarrow 37 指標 9小時前

there are people out there who think Bron should have won MVP every year since 2009, so this doesn’t surprise me. dudes consistency is amazing but his name is what puts him over the edge on these kinds of awards

猛龍球迷:有些人覺得自09年後每年的MVP都應該是詹姆斯的,我覺得這種想法很正常,畢竟他的出色異常穩定。可是在評選月最佳這種獎項方面,是他的名字讓他佔得了先機。

[–][MIA] LeBron James dantew 23 指標 8小時前

How is that pretty hard? I mean you can’t go wrong with either, the face stats look comparable on both, the difference in TS% is 1% in favor of Westbrook, so all around could』ve gone with either one. Acting like this is plain robbery is bs tho.

熱火球迷:難道這個月最佳選老詹很難嗎?我覺得選誰都沒錯,兩人的純數據是可以一拼的,威少的真實命中率高出了1%,這是他的優勢,所以整體來看的話,這個獎給誰都沒毛病。可是有些人還說什麼這是赤裸裸的搶劫,這種話純粹扯淡。

[–]Lakers joerosion 9 指標 8小時前

I don’t follow the Rockets closely, so I can’t tell you about Westbrook with any authority, but let’s keep in mind that these stats don’t really tell the defensive story. Lebron has been excellent in that respect all year long.

湖人球迷:我沒咋關注火箭的比賽,所以我也沒法評判威少,不過大家得明白一點,這些數據沒法真實反映他倆的防守。而在這方面呢,老詹整個賽季都很出色。

[–]Rockets thinkrispys 28 指標 7小時前

Russ led the starters in defensive rating until Covington came along. He's not amazing on defense, but he's doing really well on that end.

And you know, in head to head matchup, Russ wiped the floor with the Lakers and LeBron got stopped.

火箭球迷:在考文頓來我火之前,威少的防守效率值一直都是首發裡最高的。他的防守雖然不是很頂級,可是做得其實也很好。

而且你知道的,火箭和湖人正面較量的那場比賽裡,湖人和老詹都被限制住了,威少卻打得風生水起。

[–]Lakers spyirl 30 指標 7小時前

Russ in February: 267 points, 67 rebounds, 51 assists, 14 steals, 2 blocks, 9 3PM.

Lebron in February: 260 points, 93 rebounds, 101 assists, 10 steals, 4 blocks, 30 3PM.

Both the Lakers and Rockets were 9-2.

湖人球迷:威少二月份數據匯總:267分67板51助14斷2帽9三分;

詹姆斯二月份數據匯總:260分93板101助10斷4帽30三分。

兩隊的戰績都是9勝2負

[–]Celtics kanzakisol 45 指標 7小時前

You keep posting totals not realizing that Russ only played 8 games to LeBron's 10 in February. 7-1 Rockets in those games, 8-2 Lakers. That's including a 41pt Russ game in the head to head matchup that the Rockets won.

It's not a highway robbery but I can see why some people are pressed about it. And totals don't really do much to change the context in this case.

凱爾特人球迷:你總是貼這種匯總數據,怕是不知道威少二月只打了8場,而詹姆斯打了10場吧。威少出戰的那些比賽火箭7勝1負,湖人則是8勝2負。還包括那場湖火正面交鋒中威少拿41分那場,火箭贏球。

詹姆斯得獎也不是非常偏頗,不過我能理解為啥有些人耿耿於懷。而且你列個匯總數據真沒啥參考性。

[–]Lakers spyirl 3 指標 5小時前

Oh, so the player who load managed more games should be the player of the month? Westbrook skipped 3 Rockets games in February.

湖人球迷:哦,照你這意思,那個負荷管理更多的人應該當選月最佳?威少二月份缺席了三場火箭的比賽。

[–][HOU] Moochie Norris nonetimeaccount 15 指標 6小時前

Totals are completely useless if the guys didn't play the same amount of games and there's only one reason why you would bring them up...

火箭球迷:要是他倆打得比賽場次都不一樣,那匯總數據完全沒用,你們提這一點只有一個原因……

[–]Lakers spyirl 5 指標 5小時前

That's the whole point of my post lol. Because you stans are ignoring that Westbrook missed 3 games this month. Lebron is the rightful player of the month.

湖人球迷:這就是我的目的,哈哈哈。因為你們這些粉絲無視威少上個月缺席三場比賽的事實。老詹當選上月最佳合情合理。

[–][HOU] Moochie Norris nonetimeaccount 7 指標 3小時前

LeBron missed a game in Feb too, but again you don't want to make a fair comparison.

You want to talk totals? Let's do that. Russ had 41 when he played the Lakers. What did Bron have?

But really everyone knows totals don't mean shit. That's why the scoring champ is not the guy who scores the most points in a season but the guy that averages the most ppg. But you go ahead and pretend we can change the criteria when it doesn't fit your narrative and act like every other player discussion we ever have is actually doing it wrong when we talk about averages.

火箭球迷:可是詹姆斯上月也缺席了一場比賽啊,不過話說回來了,你壓根就不想公平地比較。

你想談匯總數據?那我奉陪。威少打湖人得了41分?詹姆斯拿了多少?

不過其實大家都知道匯總數據屁也不是。要不然得分王幹嘛不算賽季總得分最多而是均分最高呢。可你一看不佔理了,就不管這些,覺得我們可以改變標準。

[–][HOU] Tracy McGrady AemonSteelsong 4 指標 8小時前

Russ played the best month of his career since his MVP season and gets snubbed. If you think he didn't play enough games, Harden's played more games, has better stats and better record compared to LeBron. How does LeBron win over BOTH of them?? Media bias is real.

火箭球迷:上個月的威少打出了自他MVP賽季之後最佳的單月表現,結果被無視了。如果你覺得他的參賽場次不夠,那我們說哈登啊,他的場次更多,數據也更好,比起老詹的戰績也更好。那詹姆斯是怎麼贏過他倆的?媒體真是太偏心了。

[–]Lakers spicy62 6 指標 10小時前

Oh wow I would say im surprised russ didnt win it but the media narrative is still strong with lebron so this is expected. Only way russ and harden will get respect is if they win a title at this point.

湖人球迷:噢,我也為威少沒拿獎感到奇怪,不過呢,媒體對老詹還是蠻看重的,所以這個結果也是可預見的。威少和哈登想得到足夠的尊重,只有先奪冠再說。

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