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2019年5月16日,《生活大爆炸》最終季的最後一集,如期播出了。對我來說,這一刻盼望已久,但同時也難以坦然接受。
這個陪我從青蔥學生時代踏入成人世界的故事,終於還是到了要說再見的時候。It's time to say goodbye。
看過《生活大爆炸》的人,一定會對謝爾頓印象深刻。他是個理論物理天才,生活完全按自己的一套規則行事,也不懂謙虛與人情世故。不過,他有著另一些方面的可愛特點與獨特的魅力。從第四季開始,他有了一個和自己很相似女朋友——「女版謝爾頓」艾米·菲拉·福勒。
在電視劇裡,艾米是一位神經生物學博士,與男友謝爾頓一樣,是個高智商卻不通人情的極客。她留著老土的髮型(被謝爾頓批評為「像是沾滿石油的海鷗羽毛」)、穿著老土的衣服、帶著書呆子眼鏡。曾經,她的生活中只有吃飯、睡覺和做研究三種狀態。
在現實生活中和角色一樣,也是枚貨真價實的超級學霸呢!她不僅擁有神經科學博士學位,還在當地社區當過五年老師~ 話說,英文裡的nerd(怪咖/書呆子)和geek(極客)到底有什麼區別? 最近,腦力超讚的Mayim在《扣扣熊》脫口秀節目裡就幫主持人分析了下,究竟什麼樣的人才算nerd或geek。果然是學霸,三言兩語就解釋的很清晰有理呢~
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folks, get ready, because you know my first
guest from "beaches," "blossom," and of course "the big bang theory."
please welcome mayim bialik.
>> stephen: please, after you. nice to have you on the show.
>> nice to be here.
>> stephen: not only are you on this show on cbs tonight, but tonight the season finale of season 10 of big bang theory is tonight and i understand this is taped before that broadcast.
>> correct.
>> stephen: it's whatever, 3:45 or --
>> everyone dies -- whoops!just kidding.
>> stephen: hard to make that funny.
new "big bang" the universe starts all over again?
is it something having to do with your haracter?
>> yes.
>> stephen: you have a one in seven chance of being right with that guess.
>> stephen: you're here, might as well take a stab with it.
>> something big happens with my character and sheldon.
>> stephen: something big has already happened between the two of you.
>> we had coitus.
>> stephen: what a lovely way to put it.
>> are you blushing?
>> stephen: under all this makeup. we had jim parsons on last week and he said he's not actually understanding any of the things
he says on that show, nor does he want to understand.
>> correct.
>> stephen: you actually have a ph.d. in neuroscience.
>> correct.
>> stephen: was that just, like, intense? was that intense method acting? how did this come about?
>> no. actually, i took time off. i was on "blossom" when i was younger. i took off 12 years to get my undergraduate and graduate degree at u.c.l.a., had two children, did a lot of things in those years.
i returned to acting, honestly because we were running out of health insurance.
>> stephen: pretty soon, everybody's going to return to acting.who would have thought acting was the "safe choice"?
>> i had been teaching neuroscience --
>> stephen: where were you teaching neuroscience?
>> i taught junior high and high school in our home school in los angeles and also taught
biology and chemistry.
>> stephen: do you ever explain to the other cast
members what they're saying means?
>> so here's the thing about actors -- they don't like when other actors say, let me give you a little pointer on that one
>> stephen: not even pronunciation?
>> they don't like that at all, no.
>> stephen: i love anyone's enthusiasm for knowledge. science isn't always valued as much as it should be.
>> true.
>> stephen: the people on the characters y'all portray on the show are referred to as in other
words.
how do you feel about that term "nerd"? actually, my first email address ever was "nerd" at ucla.edu.
>> stephen: that was available?
>> that's right, in 1995, it wasn't cool yet and no one wanted it, but i did.
>> stephen: what makes someone a nerd, in your opinion? because there are a lot of controversy over the definition of nerd sometimes, like there's
a rise of nerd culture and people want to be in other words but they don't know what qualifies you to be nerd.
i thought nerd just means you're enthusiastic about something.
>> i'm enthusiastic about this mug. i'm a mug nerd.
>> stephen: an ancient design. it's how things work on an academic on intellectual level?
yeah, generally fall under nerd. in other words don't tend to have an elaborate social life but they can. we do.
>> stephen: yeah. information is your --
>> you're now my best friend. so i had no other plans tonight. this is it.
>> stephen: could i qualify as a nerd?
>> tell me some of the things you like. besides mugs.
>> stephen: i really like astronomy.
>> okay.
>> stephen: i really love the lord of the rings and tolkin.
>> that would qualify you as a geek in my book. we could literally talk about this all night.
>> stephen: let's cancel all the other guests. let's geek out. so nerd versus geek.
>> i'd say geek tends to be someone who's interested in those kinds of things, fantasy, you know, "star wars" culture, star trek. those people aren't necessarily academically or intellectually inclined but are inclined towards having friends who also like those kind of geeky things and that's their social circle. in other words are by themselves.
geeks are by themselves with other people who are also by themselves.
>> stephen: so let me see if i get this right. a geek, if i'm interpreting correctly, is, oh, yeah, i know that dude, i met him at comic con. the nerd is i didn't know he was so quiet.
>> stephen: why are you perpetuating stereotype?
that's my job on "the big bang theory."
>> stephen: you have a new book called "girling up" how to be strong, smart and spectacular.
>> right.
>> stephen: how does one girl up?
>> by becoming a woman from a girl. i used my scientific background and my interest in the process of becoming a woman.
for me, i was a very unusual child -- i'm sure that's
shocking to you -- i'm pretty much an unusual adult, and i wrote this book to speak about the full female experience both for girls who don't fit in and those who do to teach about the full experience with a background in science in terms of the hormones and the biological processes of being a female?
addition to dealing with difficult things in the 21s 21st century female girls have to deal with.
>> stephen: i'm a 52-year-old man. is there any way a man can girl up? anything positive to learn from this?
>> you just asked me two different questions. there is something positive you can learn from this --
>> stephen: but i can't girl up?
>> how gender fluid are you feeling tonight?
>> stephen: the night is young."girling up" out now!
「艾米」——馬依姆登場!
馬依姆·拜力克(Mayim Bialik)是電視劇《生活大爆炸》中艾米的扮演者。出演擁有學術背景,性格複雜而有些奇怪的「艾米」,馬依姆·拜力克是怎樣的存在呢?
首先,馬依姆在現實生活裡真的是一個大學霸;而且,她和艾米一樣,也是一位神經生物學博士!
雖然在劇中出演一位有點「土」的科學宅女,不過在現實生活裡,馬依姆是一位活力四射、幽默時尚的演員。
90年代初,馬依姆出演了美國家庭情景電視劇《綻放》。她在劇裡飾演一位與爸爸和兩個哥哥一起生活的平凡女孩。當時,該劇讓她收穫了巨大的成功。
不過,當《綻放》拍攝結束後,馬依姆選擇了在另一個領域繼續「綻放」:神經科學。那時,她的學霸本色已經初露端倪——她已經收到了哈佛和耶魯等頂尖名校的本科錄取通知書。不過她最終還是選擇了離自己的家鄉聖地牙哥更近的加州大學洛杉磯分校。
學霸的路永無止境。在2000年,馬依姆在UCLA得到了神經科學、希伯來語和猶太學三個學士學位,接著便繼續攻讀神經生物學的博士學位。7年後的2007年,她拿到了UCLA的神經生物學博士,研究課題是一種染色體缺失導致的罕見疾病——普瑞德威利綜合症(小胖威利症)。內容主要是關於催產素和抗利尿激素在青少年強迫症與普瑞德威利綜合症裡的作用機制。(論文在這裡,量力而行……)
後來,就是我們都知道的《生活大爆炸》了。
馬依姆和《生活大爆炸》
在接到試鏡之前,馬依姆從來都沒看過《生活大爆炸》,但最後她還是成為了艾米的扮演者。編劇比爾·布拉迪稱讚她道:「開始,這個角色略顯單薄,但馬伊姆將這個角色詮釋地活靈活現。」
艾米是一個有些攻擊性的科學天才,也是一個社交遲鈍的宅女。不過在現實生活中,馬依姆卻是一個活力四射、幽默風趣、笑點無數的演員。她是《生活大爆炸》的科學顧問,編劇們有時候會向她請教有關神經科學的問題。有一次,編劇比爾·普拉迪問馬依姆說:「解剖大腦的時候,該把大腦放哪啊?」馬依姆則回答:「噢,我們都把大腦裝在一種像大塑料垃圾桶一樣的東西裡。」
馬依姆的經歷綜合起來似乎有些奇異,不過這正是她富有魅力之處。
從星光燦爛的童星到UCLA的神經科學家;在成為神經科學方面的專家後,接著又在風靡世界的電視劇中大獲成功——馬依姆憑藉艾米一角收穫兩次艾美獎最佳喜劇女配角提名——她同時還是兩個孩子的母親、素食主義者、猶太教徒。她也曾寫書、出書,自己管理所有的社交網絡帳號,並樂於在博客和個人主頁上和他人分享她的生活。
馬依姆也和果殼科學人分享了她在科學領域以及演藝事業裡的各種有趣故事。馬依姆對我們說道:「《生活大爆炸》回歸了我們真的很高興!而且我想對現在正在讀書、在科研領域搬磚的人說,別擔心你整天似乎暗無天日地泡在實驗室裡,日後終有回報!It will pay off!」
馬依姆在艾美獎頒獎典禮上。憑藉艾米一角,馬依姆獲得過兩次艾美獎提名。
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>> stephen: welcome back.
>> thank you!
>> stephen: how you been?
>> i've been okay, a little busy, but i'm okay.
>> stephen: of course you're busy. you guys just-- you just had the "big bang theory" season finale.
>> yes.
>> stephen: where sheldon and amy finally tie the knot.
>> yup.
>> stephen: mazel tov, "amazel tov.
>> thank you.
>> stephen: i'm so pretend happy for you.
>> i'm pretend appreciative that you're happy.
>> stephen: and, listen, the exciting thing is that mark hamill was there.
>> that's extremely exciting.
>> yes.
mark hamill officiated the ceremony.
>> yes, he did, as himself.
>> stephen: yes, although, luke sky walker could also do it.
>> or he's so talented he could play anything he want s.
>> stephen: you're on the biggest television show on television here, only cbs. because you're a big star in your own right, does that make you immune to the jedi power of seeing mark hamill?
i've met the man once.
we had him on the show once, and i could barely breathe.
>> yeah, it was like that.
it was a combination of crying and not reathing.
>> stephen: is that-- is this-- is this--
>> that's what it felt like all week. that is kelly cuoco.
>> stephen: literally, what happened, when i met mark hamill himself, i also peed my pants. so did he know you were freaking out, or were you playing it cool.
>> i have a website could grok nation.
>> stephen: grak nation?
>> grok nation.
>> stephen: like "stranger in a strange land?"
>> very good.
>> stephen: we'll get into this.
>> i wrote how freaked out i was meeting someone who i never wanted to meet because he was so perfect in my mind from the time i was a child.
why would i want to meet him? but they made me. it is my job, they made me
interact.
i wrote about it on grok nation, and apparently, mark hamill is online a lot. he saw my freaking out photos. and he saw my tweets.
>> did you have to see him after that?
>> yes.
>> stephen: you had to face the man again after geek out?
>> yeah. i was looking down at the ground. he said, "i just love that video, you're so natural and real."
and i thought nothing is normal about this interaction.
>> stephen: are you team luke or team hawn?
>> some of the ladies go for hahn.
>> i'm old-school luke. that's what i imagined my
husband would look like some day.
>> stephen: blond, teenaged surfer.
>> yeah.
>> stephen: whole bit?
>> yeah, i was born in 1975.
doesn't that make sense?
>> stephen: now, you're a modern orthodox jewish woman. how many blond teenaged surfers are there in your community?
>> that number would be zero.
>> stephen: that would be zero.
>> stephen: so you're a neuroscientist, though, and some people have trouble reconciling investigation and science, and you have none.
>> no.
>> stephen: okay.
>> no.
>> stephen: is there anything-- is there anything
that you believe in your religiousity, that your scientist you goes, "yeah, i know that's not true?"
>> many things.
>> stephen: oh, yeah?
>> well, you know, i mean, i have no problem believing that, you know, physics is all under
the umbrella of whatever power greater than yourself you'd like to call it.
>> stephen: sure.
>> but, like, there's this mystical notion that, you know, all of the jews stood at the base of mount sinai when the ten commandments were handed down.
>> stephen: why is that mystical? there weren't that many back then, were there?
>> that i was there.
>> stephen: oh, you--
>> like, my soul mystically there was, thousand of years ago. like, wrap your head around
that!
>> stephen: so you're reincarnated?
>> no, it's not like that.
>> stephen: so your soul has always been there and your soul has always opinion--
>> all our souls were there.
>> stephen: i didn't be that part.
>> it's mystical.
>> stephen: so you were in "the ten ommandments" with charlton heston metaphorically speaking.
>> yeah. very mystical.
>> stephen: yeah.
my father was a scientist. and i'm a big believer in
science, but i like angels, yeah, 100%. i am totally in for angels and i know it's ridiculous, totally ridiculous.
but i picture the angels. there's an angel above my head all the time.
>> unicorns?
>> stephen: okay. there are no unicorns in the bible.
>> there are some animals that we don't know what they are.
>> stephen: behemoth.
>> no-- there's, like, words like what animal is that? maybe it's a unicorn. i don't know.
>> stephen: what's' nephlim?
>> i tonight know, what's a nephlim?
>> stephen: about a buck 25. we're going to cut this part out. let's cut this part out.
it's in genesis, gen sit. they're the sons of god, who mate with the sons of-- the daughters of men, and from which the heroes were born. that's what it says in genesis.
>> maybe you're reading a different translation than me?
>> stephen: maybe so, maybe so.
they're telling me i should move off of the old testament over here.
evidently-- evidently-- evidently, deconstruction of the torah is not big.
>> 3,000 years of interpretive history is worth nothing to these people!
>> stephen: exactly.
>> geez.
>> stephen: you have a new book.
>> i do.
>> stephen: just as good as genesis. it's called "boying up."
>> it is!
>> stephen: this is the sequel or the companion--
>> true.
>> stephen: to... the.
>> the sibling, as it were.
>> stephen: to "girling up."
>> and when i was here last year and wheerp chitchatting, you actually said "when is 'buying
up' coming out?" it's your fault.
>> stephen: where is daddy's taste of that? if it's mine, come on.okay, so, just-- i'm going to state obvious-- you are a girl. last time i checked.
>> i'm a woman. oh!
>> stephen: my apologies. my apology.
>> don't apologize. i love being a woman.
>> stephen: okay, i called you a girl. so what do you know about buying up? what do you know about buying up there, woman? man.
>> i feel like i'm back in grad school.
>> stephen: sure.
>> i'm trained as a neuroscientist, and i'm not just trained to understand female body and female anatomy and female psychology.
i was trained to understand thaad of boys and men as well.
>> stephen: okay, so you've seen, you've seen.
>> i have two sons.
>> stephen: there it is.
>> i have two sons.
and what i did is i wrote a book about kind of the biology and psychology and boys' place in our culture-- oh, you turned right to that page, didn't you.
>> stephen: it's a page i can't show on cbs.you know how things work, because you got-- the you got the nice pencil sketches.
>> yes.
>> stephen: of various ways of reproductive parts.
>> correct, that is part of chapter 1.
>> stephen: right there at the top. this is the genesis of "boying up." i think these are call fephlim.now you've got two boys of your own
>> yes.
>> stephen: two wonderful young men.
>> there they are on the cover.
>> stephen: how do they feel about mom having the drawings of the penises on the book? are they going to share this with friends at school?
>> probably not.
they think that i'm --
>> stephen: you warned them.
>> no, they think i'm annoying, weird mom who happens to be on television at times and writes
book.
>> stephen: as a mom, what do you want for mother's day?
>> a nap.
>> stephen: i think that's pretty universal. that's perfectly universal. now, you also have a chapter in here that is about sexual assault and harassment.
>> uh-huh.
>> stephen: what do you want the boys to know about, you know, as they boy up and then eventually man up, what do you tell them?
>> well i think, you know, boys in our culture and men as well, get a lot of mixed messages. be gentle but not too gentle. be aggressive but not too aggressive.
and i think the time is now for us to talk onestly and openly with young boys in particular bconsent, things-- things have come up in the news, for example, our president has brought words into the vernacular of my home that i was not planning on discussion disusing with my children.
>> stephen: sure.
>> but things like "locker room talk" is something that is included in the book because it is important to talk to young boy about that.
what does it mean when we say, "boys will be boys?" is that accepting unacceptable behavior?
it's not of not too early to start talking with young boys about it so they learn to be respectful and increase communication about bodies.
>> stephen: thank you.
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