【鍵盤俠】錫安連續7場得分20+|可怕的是他現在只是小試牛刀!

2020-12-09 直播吧

Zion Williamson is the youngest player in NBA history to score 20+ PTS in seven straight games. Previous youngest was Carmelo Anthony in 2004.

錫安是NBA史上最年輕的連續7場得分20+球員。之前達成這一成就的是2004年的安東尼。

Pelicans started gettin hot just before Zion returned and now that he’s back, it looking promising they』ll snag a playoff birth although they’re still 4 games behind.

就在錫安復出前,鵜鶘的狀態就開始有了起色。現在錫安回歸了,感覺他們爭取季後賽席位的希望又回來了,儘管他們仍然落後四個勝場。

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[–]Rockets nuhx 1480 指標 13小時前

He’s still so raw. I’m looking forward to the real Zion experience after a couple real NBA offseasons.

火箭球迷:他現在還很糙呢。經過幾個休賽期的強化之後,很想看看真正的錫安是怎樣的。

[–]Doctor-TobiasFunke 5 指標 9小時前

Exactly, this is just a taste. I can’t wait for the whole load!

確實,這才小試牛刀呢。好想看看開足馬力的錫安!

[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 684 指標 13小時前

He's still super young too, even for being a 19 year old. He was 18 on draft night.

雄鹿球迷:而且他依然相當年輕,才19歲啊。選秀當晚也才18.

[–]Pelicans UnimpressedAsshole 587 指標 13小時前

Crazy that a 19 year old is already bodying the biggest guys in the league. He reminds me so much of Barkley.

鵜鶘球迷:19歲的孩子就已經在聯盟和那些塊頭最大的人拼身體了,不可思議啊。他讓我想起了巴克利。

[–][SAS] Boban Marjanovic CaptObvious420 323 指標 13小時前

Watching him in college, I had a hard time seeing his game thriving to the same degree in the NBA against much bigger and more skilled and athletic players. But yeah, he's the real deal, and he looks like he has a lot of room for growth.

馬刺球迷:看他在大學打球的時候,我沒想到他在NBA能打出同樣的表現,畢竟NBA的對手要壯得多,技術更好,而且更有運動能力。確實啊,他是貨真價實的,而且感覺他還有很多成長空間。

[–][PHI] Joel Embiid sharke93 94 指標 11小時前

Turns out he's still that much more athletic even in comparison to NBA guys

76人球迷:結果比起NBA球員,他的運動能力還是超出一大截。

[–]Second_Rate_Sorcerer 103 指標 11小時前

And he is not even close to the explosiveness he showed in college just yet. One off season and he'll be even more dominant. He needs to really work on his conditioning though and make sure his diet is on point. Cause those are the only things that can stop him from superstardom.

他現在的爆炸力比起大學還差得遠呢。再等一個休賽期吧,他的統治力還會更強。不過他真得好好強化體能訓練,保證合理的飲食。因為這是唯二能阻止他成為超巨的因素了。

[–]pinkluloyd 19 指標 5小時前

People talk about him losing strength if he loses a bit of weight but wtf do you do against a 6'6" 250 lbs man with a potentially 4 foot vert...

很多人說錫安要是減重一點點,那就會失去力量,可面對一個身高6尺6體重250磅(錫安現在285磅)垂直彈跳接近四英尺的大塊頭,你特麼還能幹啥呢……

[–]Heat drain65 261 指標 13小時前

I don’t think there are many NBA players that are bigger or more athletic than Zion.

熱火球迷:我覺得聯盟裡比錫安更壯或更有運動天賦的人少之又少。

[–]Raptors LEERROOOOYYYYY 119 指標 11小時前

The guy is nuts. Just powerful as fuck

猛龍球迷:這孩子太變態了,力量大的一匹

[–]ulasakyildiz 20 指標 10小時前

this mf is basically a bowling ball

這貨基本就是個保齡球

[–]Nets LiaM_CS 104 指標 11小時前

He made Whiteside look like a child on a couple plays last night, it was insane

籃網球迷:昨晚有兩個回合,白邊在他面前跟小孩一樣,太假了。

[–]Pelicans RoastDaMostToast 75 指標 10小時前

He was even pushing Steven Adams around. Yea I think his game has translated

鵜鶘球迷:他之前甚至把亞當斯撞開了幾米遠。沒錯,我覺得這就是他的風格。

[–]NBA DeeThreeTimesThree 86 指標 9小時前

Ripping that rebound from Gianiss is one of the most big boy plays we』ve seen from him so far imo

他之前在字母哥手中生搶籃板,我覺得這是目前為止他最勁爆的表演之一。

[–]Pelicans RoastDaMostToast 50 指標 9小時前

Giannis got the better of him a lot that game but that play was definitely very satisfying

鵜鶘球迷:那場比賽錫安很多時候都是被字母哥教訓,不過那個籃板搶得確實讓人很滿意。

[–]Rockets psufb 66 指標 11小時前

Can't wait to see how him, Zo, and Ingram expand their games. 19, 22, and 22. If they can all expand their repertoire that's a fun dynamic trio build around

火箭球迷:好想看看技能豐富之後的錫安、鮑爾和英格拉姆一起打球啊。19歲,22歲,22歲。要是他們都擴充了技能包,那圍繞這個活力三人組建隊可就有意思咯

[–]Pelicans MarchMadnessisMe 18 指標 8小時前

I can only get so erect.

鵜鶘球迷:那我只能石更。

[–]Warriors Istovi 1 指標 4小時前

Potentially another OKC deal with future MVPs and stellar career numbers. Maybe not Lonzo but the other two will be deadly for a long time.

勇士球迷:那他們仨就可能跟當年雷霆一樣,有三個未來的MVP,而且三人的生涯數據都很秀。或許鮑爾到不了這一步,不過另外兩位以後在相當長一段時間內會很致命的。

[–]Bulls TheVindicator07 6 指標 3小時前

Even then, Healthy Lonzo with prime Zion and BI could easily lead the league in assists for quite a few years.

公牛球迷:即便是那樣,一個健康的鮑爾遇上巔峰的錫安和英格拉姆的話,那他可以在很多年裡輕鬆領跑助攻榜

[–]YawnKemp 17 指標 10小時前

Seems like just conditioning and work on his handle/free throw would.take him to a frightening level. Anything beyond that will be unimaginably scary.

感覺僅僅提升體能和強化控球、罰球的練習就能讓錫安上升到一個恐怖的級別。要是還有別的進步,那就嚇死人了。

[–]Vince3737 15 指標 9小時前

They NEED to get Hakeem working with him in the off season. Zion with some Hakeem footwork would be unstoppable

鵜鶘必須得在休賽期找到奧拉朱旺來教錫安。他要是學會了大夢的腳步,那就無敵了。

[–]YawnKemp 6 指標 7小時前

I'm all for that! Zion seems very bright, but do you think he absorb Hakeem's lessons after a half season? Seems like a year 2 or 3 thing.

我支持!錫安雖說很有靈性,不過你覺得他僅靠半個賽季就能掌握大夢所傳授的技能嗎?貌似需要兩三個賽季。

[–]Vince3737 10 指標 7小時前

Any work with Hakeem would help. Hakeem is the GOAT at low post moves. They should try get Zion working with Hakeem as much as possible. I know Hakeem loves teaching the young players so he would likely be up for it

不管大夢教他啥,都會有幫助的。奧拉朱旺的低位背身腳步可是歷史最強啊。鵜鶘應該儘可能地讓錫安跟奧拉朱旺一起練習。我知道奧拉朱旺是很喜歡指點年輕人的,所以他很可能會答應的。

[–]2heads1shaft 30 指標 10小時前

Kind of crazy New Orleans went from CP3 to AD to Zion.

All time great players. With Zion on track to be one.

有點厲害啊,鵜鶘從保羅時期到戴維斯時期,再到錫安時期。

全都是歷史頂級球員,錫安就是下一個。

[–]Mavericks Tankwagon Alexkono 17 指標 7小時前

Zion very well could be the best of the 3.

獨行俠球迷:錫安很可能是他們三個裡面最強的那個。

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[–]Lakers Rager_YMN_6 249 指標 14小時前

It feels like he’s barely tryin out there too... like he has a whole nother gear he could turn on but he’s taking it easy for now because he’s playing weaker specimen

湖人球迷:我感覺他在場上都沒咋出力……感覺他還有一套新設備可以啟動,但是他現在就是閒庭信步,因為他遇到的對手更弱。

[–]Timely Junket0[ ] 127 指標 12小時前

Yep that's the crazy part. His effort level is not even close to his college level yet. On defense he takes so many plays off right now. Once his stamina and his confidence comes back, it will be an interesting experience. Especially next to Lonzo who will feed him constantly and Ingram who can help flll in when he can't create one on one against closed down defenses.

對啊,這是最離譜的。他現在打得還沒大學那會兒費力呢。防守端他很多時候都沒上心。一旦他的體能和信心恢復了,那就有意思咯。何況身邊還有鮑爾這種不斷餵球的夥伴,而且他在打不開局面時還有英格拉姆幫忙。

[–]Nuggets Supperkick 61 指標 11小時前

The pelicans could be a really good team in the next few seasons.

掘金球迷:鵜鶘再等兩三個賽季就能成為一支真正的強隊。

[–]Bulls Dr_Disaster 15 指標 9小時前

Imagine a lighter, better conditioned Zion unleashed on the league. Dear God...

公牛球迷:一個更輕、更強的錫安釋放出來,會是怎樣啊。我的天吶……

[–]Mavericks mrtemporallobe 266 指標 13小時前

We are not prepared for peak Zion in 2-3 years.

獨行俠球迷:我們還沒準備好錫安兩三年之後的巔峰呢

[–]Nets Expulsure 189 指標 11小時前

Zion won’t peak at like 22 lol

籃網球迷:錫安22歲的時候還沒到巔峰,哈哈哈

[–]Knicks fandagan 56 指標 10小時前

It's not that crazy; age 22 was D-Rose's peak.

尼克斯球迷:也沒那麼離譜,羅斯的巔峰就是22歲

[–]ulasakyildiz 159 指標 10小時前

if he didn’t got injured it wouldn’t be his peak

如果他沒受傷的話,那就不是他的巔峰

[–][LAL] LeBron James knightvillian 69 指標 9小時前

The greats peak early and stay there

湖人球迷:那些偉大球員的巔峰期都來得早,然後一直保持

[–]mclovin215 28 指標 8小時前

LeBron peaked at 27 imo

我覺得老詹的巔峰是在27歲

[–]Cavaliers favoritedisguise 15 指標 6小時前

Some say he's still peaking to this day.

騎士球迷:有些人說他到現在還是巔峰期

[–]mclovin215 19 指標 5小時前*

He's still playing at a LeBron level. But I think the peak of his prime ended around the time he returned to the Cavs. Offensively he has learned new skills to match whatever he has lost in raw explosiveness but his defensive versatility went a step down. With the Heat, he was effectively guarding MVP Rose in the playoffs and then Kevin Durant in the playoffs the year after

他現在依然是詹姆斯的水準。不過我覺得他的巔峰期大概在回到騎士時就結束了。進攻端他掌握了新技能,可以彌補之前純靠爆炸力的損耗,不過他的防守多樣性下降了。在熱火的時候,他可以在季後賽高效地防守MVP級別的羅斯,之後一年還能在季後賽防杜蘭特。

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[–][PHI] Kyle Korver BabyDick-_- 714 指標 13小時前

Melo did it for 9 straight if anyones wondering

76人球迷:要是有誰好奇的話,甜瓜當年可是連著9場20+

[–]Knicks jadenx2 64 指標 12小時前

Melo was born to get buckets.

尼克斯球迷:甜瓜天生就是個得分手

[–]76ers Immynimmy 56 指標 11小時前

Yet a large majority on this sub thinks he was never good.

76人球迷:可這裡還是有很多人覺得他一直都不行

[–]Heat Crayle123 107 指標 11小時前

A large majority of this sub probably started watching ball when Melo got to OKC. Same goes for someone like Dwight. The vocal majority is always the guys with the least knowledge lol

熱火球迷:那些人或許是在甜瓜去雷霆的時候才開始看球的。他們對霍華德也是這樣的態度。那些喊得最兇的一幫人總是那些最無知的,哈哈哈

[–]Knicks NYCharlie212 5 指標 7小時前

Dwight and that Orlando run felt like the blue print to the modern nba and especially this current bucks team. Surround the big man with a shit ton of shooters and all of a sudden the spacing becomes next level.

尼克斯球迷:感覺霍華德和當年那支魔術就是現代NBA的雛形,尤其是現在的雄鹿這種。一個內線,配備一堆投手,場上空間立馬就拉開了好多。

[–][NYK] RJ Barrett Nick_Scopes 12 指標 10小時前

Til this day I can’t believe Melo never teamed up with Bron and Wade in Miami. I think you guys would』ve won another 2 chips with him instead of Bosh.

尼克斯球迷:知道今天,我仍然不敢相信,甜瓜居然沒在邁阿密和老詹、韋德聚首。我覺得要是用他換掉波什,那熱火還能多拿兩個冠軍。

[–]Lakers Reeeespawn1776 7 指標 7小時前

That’s an insane take. Bosh was fantastic.

湖人球迷:你也真是敢說。波什很厲害的啊。

[–][TOR] Jose Calderon MasaiGotUsNow 12 指標 8小時前

Absolutely not, this isn’t 2k

People were already saying wade/bron was an awkward fit, now you wanna add another ball dominant player?

There’s only 1 ball, plus melo doesn’t offer much else aside from his elite offense. That Miami team needed size, that’s why bosh was so important. He was by far their most skilled big, but he had to play out of position at C

猛龍球迷:肯定不能用安東尼換波什啊,這又不是玩2K

當時就有人說過,韋德和老詹搭起來有些尷尬,現在又想再加個依賴球權的人?

場上只有一個球啊,而且甜瓜除了頂級的進攻,其他方面也提供不了什麼。那支熱火需要的是身高,所以波什的作用才如此重要。他當時是技術最高的內線,不過他打中鋒位置也是被逼無奈。

[–]Warriors cxu1993 4 指標 6小時前

Bosh was a really good defender specifically for that team since he was pretty quick and could switch out onto guards which is why their PnR defense was always one of the best. That heat team pioneered the mobile switching defenses we see today

勇士球迷:波什當時真的是個很強的防守人,尤其是在那支熱火隊裡,因為他很快,可以換防到外線對位後衛,所以熱火當時的擋拆防守總是聯盟頂尖。那支熱火是我們今天看到的移動換防的先驅者。

[–]Heat Crayle123 38 指標 10小時前

I think Melo was rumored to join/get traded to Miami for the last 2 seasons of LeBron in Miami. I cant remember how that was possible anymore but it would've been interesting to say the least.

Long tern I think Bosh was a better fit though, especially after Spo conceived smaller lineups with Bosh at C and specialists (Battier, Miller, Allen, Birdman, Chalmers etc. around the Big 3) which was integral to our defensive identity. Bosh hedging and switching on pick n rolls was and still is a massively underrated aspect of the 2 rings

熱火球迷:記得當初老詹在熱火最後兩個賽季的時候,有謠言說甜瓜要交易去邁阿密。現在記不得這個交易的可能性了,不過還是有點意思的。

可是我一直都覺得波什更適合熱火,尤其是在斯波把他挪到中鋒位置採用一套更小個的陣容之後,那套陣容裡還有對防守不可或缺的專家(圍繞在三巨頭身邊的巴蒂爾、米勒、阿倫、鳥人和查爾莫斯等等)。儘管有兩個戒指,但波什在防守中的延誤和擋拆的換防在當時和現在,都是被嚴重低估的。

[–]Lakers Butwhywouldyousuck 15 指標 9小時前

Pretty sure the rumor was that Bron/Wade went to Melo before Bosh but Melo didn't want to take the paycut so they went to Bosh instead. The real tragedy was the whole CP3/Melo teaming up never happening but I can;t remember the details on that one.

湖人球迷:我記得當時傳言是老詹和韋德本來是想招募甜瓜,可甜瓜不肯降薪,所以他倆就去找了波什。真正的悲劇是保羅和甜瓜沒有組隊,不過我不記得其中的細節了。

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[–]gigglios 9 指標 12小時前

The most entertaining player for me. Never seen an athlete like him before. Cant believe he was in highschool 2 years ago. Imagine being in grade 12 and having zion run over your team lol. Wish he came into the nba after highscool.

我覺得他是最具觀賞性的球員。之前從沒看過他這種運動員。真是不敢相信,他兩年前還在高中。想像一下,你在讀高四,看到錫安在你的校隊面前砍瓜切菜,哈哈哈。真希望他高中畢業就進NBA。

[–]EGarrett 6 指標 11小時前

It's looking also like Zion might have one of the highest PER's if not the highest PER by a rookie since Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt had a PER of 28 as a 23-year-old rookie in 1960 and Zion currently has 25.5 at age 19.

貌似錫安的效率值也是歷史頂級,應該不是效率值最高的菜鳥,畢竟有張伯倫這尊大神。1960年23歲的張伯倫打新秀賽季的效率值有28,而現在19歲的錫安效率值是25.5.

[–]Pelicans Good_NewsEveryone 166 指標 14小時前

Anyone talking small sample size with Zion is sticking their head in the sand

鵜鶘球迷:那些覺得錫安比賽場次太少說明不了什麼的人就是故意裝瞎。

[–][NOP] Jrue Holiday POWBOOMBANG 54 指標 10小時前

Honestly its just people who don't watch the games.

鵜鶘球迷:有一說一,這就是那些沒看比賽的人。

[–][CHI] Nazr Mohammed ThaBomb 39 指標 8小時前

This is the shit that frustrates me. It doesn’t take a full season to know you are watching a player who has to potential to be insanely good. I was just told in another thread that it’s way too early to draw any conclusions on how good Zion is. That makes no sense to me. Like have you watched him play? You can’t tell that he is ultra talented? You don’t have to be an NBA scout to see it!!!

公牛球迷:我覺得他們這種鬼話很扯。看一個球員的潛力是不是與眾不同,不需要花整個賽季來觀察啊。我在另一個帖子裡看到有人說,現在評判錫安有多厲害還有點太早。我覺得這完全是不講道理。你看過他打球嗎?難道你看不出他的天賦是超凡的?這個不是非得要球探才看得見的啊!!!

[–]Mavericks beatnickk 13 指標 7小時前

If you watch this dude play it is clear as fucking day that you should be terrified of him

獨行俠球迷:看這孩子打球就知道了,他的天賦真特麼瞎眼可見,你應該對他感到害怕。

[–]cesam1ne 56 指標 11小時前

The best thing about tese 20+ pts is just how simple, high percentage buckets they are. Zion uses positioning, mass and strength in the most effective ways, non dependant of shooting form..so there's just no reason to expect much fluctuation. He looks like a lock 30pt 10rb 5a player next season, IF he stays healthy.

錫安這一波連續20+最厲害的是,他的得分非常輕鬆,而且命中率很高。錫安能通過最高效的方式利用自己的要位、噸位和力量,並不依賴自己的投籃方式……所以他肯定是不會有太大起伏的。要是保持健康的話,感覺他下賽季就是穩穩的那種30分10板5助球員。

[–]Hellion3601 22 指標 10小時前

That's a great point, he scores effortlessly, he's just faster and / or stronger than any defender, and he's got soft touch and great BB IQ. These buckets will be there for him to get every game, specially as he reaches his physical peak.

說得很好,他得分不費力,他就是利用速度和力量欺負所有防守人,而且他的出球很柔,球商很高。那些得分每場比賽就是等著他去拿的,尤其是在他達到身體巔峰狀態的時候。

[–]Mike_Krzyzewski 6 指標 8小時前

The spacing of the NBA game helps his style of play as well. College basketball didn’t really limit him but the spacing of the NBA with better 3pt shooting and the 3pt line bring farther away.

如今NBA對空間的強調也讓錫安這種打法受益。大學籃球真的沒法限制住錫安,不過強調空間的NBA三分更準,三分線更遠,更能讓錫安發揮。

[–]Suns Mundingburrasaurus 23 指標 12小時前

I love how the pels are integrating him into the offense in terms of focusing on him. They should then force his development by working on his ball handling and shot creating skills over the coming offseason. Then he will be unstoppable.

太陽球迷:我很喜歡鵜鶘對錫安的使用方式,他們是讓錫安融入進攻體系,而不是專門圍繞他展開進攻。接下來他們就該在休賽期幫助錫安強化持球和創造出手機會的技能了。那時候的錫安才是無法阻擋的。

[–]Raptors apez- 22 指標 13小時前

Man I really hope the pelicans can make playoffs this year. Theyre one of the most fun teams to watch

猛龍球迷:真心希望鵜鶘這賽季能進季後賽啊。他們現在是最好看的球隊之一

[–]Suns Ondrejko179 14 指標 9小時前

We need Lakers Pelicans first round grudge match. I bet the Pels get 1 or 2 games

太陽球迷:我們想在首輪看鵜鶘和湖人的恩怨對決。我猜鵜鶘能贏一兩場。

[–]Raptors apez- 16 指標 9小時前

Pels winning that would feel so damn good for everyone except Lakers fans

猛龍球迷:要是鵜鶘能贏,那對非湖蜜的大傢伙來說,太特麼過癮了。

[–]Lakers HenchBandicoot 4 指標 10小時前

I'd like to guard him in the post one time just to feel that rump.

湖人球迷:我想在低位防錫安一次,只想感受一把那個屁股蛋子。

[–]kristape 2 指標 8小時前

gayyyyyyyy

死基佬!

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