【鍵盤俠】掘金輕取勇士|「如果沒防守 追夢在場基本是個累贅」

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[Post Game Thread] The Denver Nuggets (6-6) defeat the Golden State Warriors (6-6) 114-104 behind Jokic's 23/14/10

【賽後帖】丹佛掘金(6勝6負)今日以114-104輕取金州勇士(6勝6負)。

約基奇23分14板10助、巴頓17分4板3助、穆雷17分9板6助、賈瑪考-格林15分9板、米爾薩普12分4板4助、莫裡斯11分3助、多齊爾10分6板;庫裡35分11板4助2斷、懷斯曼18分5板2助、維金斯16分3板3助、烏布雷14分5板2助、帕斯卡爾8分5板。

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[–][DAL] Wang Zhizhi suzukigun4life 135 指標 1小時前

Draymond with 1 point on 0/0/25 splits, 4 rebounds, 7 assists, and 5 fouls and 5 turnovers in 26 minutes.

What the fuck

王治郅球迷:追夢打了26分鐘,三項命中率0、0、25%,就拿1分4板7助,再有5個犯規和5個失誤。這打個錘子啊

[–]Mavericks MEMES4DREAMS77 75 指標 1小時前

Might be the worst game I』ve seen him play

獨行俠球迷:或許是我看他打得最菜的一場比賽。

[–]WheatonsGonnaScore 10 指標 1小時前

Jokic has always eaten him alive

約基奇哪次碰到他不是生吃啊

[–]sombor_shuffle 11 指標 1小時前

Tbf Jokic eats alive pretty much every center in the league lol

說實話,約基奇碰到聯盟所有中鋒差不多都是生吃,哈哈哈

[–]LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO101 47 指標 1小時前

This is the 2021 Draymond experience, just with better defense typically than he played tonight. He legit can’t score anymore at any level. Allows the traps on Steph to be even tighter because Draymond doesn’t even look at the hoop anymore

這就是21年的追夢,也就今天防守更差了些。甭管對手是啥水平,他就沒法得分了。這就使得對手對庫裡包夾得更兇,因為追夢如今甚至都不看框了。

[–]Jazz chrimewave 34 指標 1小時前

and its worse because no one guards him at all and he still doesnt score

hes totally a nonfactor on offense, a detriment for sure

爵士球迷:更慘的是,對手壓根都不防他了,他依然得不了分。

他在進攻端完全就沒存在感,那自然就是個累贅了。

[–]Mavericks fergious 9 指標 54 分鐘前

He’s very good at finding the right guy going downhill. Unless the right guy is him then he seems to blow it.

獨行俠球迷:他很善於給順下的隊友餵球。可如果那個順下的人是他,那就白給了。

[–]Mavericks ghostlima 19 指標 1小時前

He was terrible tonight. His playmaking and defense usually make the warriors much more dynamic but not today, today they seemed the start of the season warriors because of him too many turnovers today by him steph.

Draymond really needs to step up his playmaking and atleast be threat attacking the basket. He is the worst scorer among players that are actually pretty good.

獨行俠球迷:他今晚打得很菜。他的策應和防守通常能讓勇士打得更具活力,但今天並不是,今天他們打得像賽季初段的那支勇士,因為他和庫裡好多失誤。

追夢真得發揮自身的組織能力,至少在攻筐時有點威脅吧。所有優秀球員裡,他的得分能力是最差的。

[–]Warriors jcde7ago 6 指標 1小時前

At least he only took 2 shots, he's not jacking up 12+ a game like Oubre lmao

勇士球迷:至少追夢只投了兩個球啊,他不會像烏布雷那樣每場強行扔12個以上,哈哈哈

[–]Wilt Gamblerlain 3 指標 37 分鐘前

14 points on 10 shots is one of his better games, pretty sure that's like above league TS% mainly because the three shots he made were 3s. If he can't shoot 3s he'd be useless anyways so I'm fine with him taking those as long as he doesn't give up better shots. Draymond literally has no offense and no business taking anything but completely open shots.

烏布雷今天10投拿了14分算是打得好了,他今天這真實命中率肯定在聯盟平均線之上,因為他進了三個三分。如果他三分都進不了,那就沒啥用了,所以他投我覺得沒事,只要有更好的機會他別放棄出手就行。追夢這真是毫無進攻能力了,除非前面完全沒人,否則就沒他啥事兒。

[–][GSW] Stephen Curry voldemortscore 20 指標 1小時前

IDK what happened to Draymond, was fine so far and then atrocious on both ends tonight. Maybe something with his conditioning still affected by COVID combined with altitude.

And Kerr needs to bench Oubre and put Lee in.

勇士球迷:不知道追夢是咋了,本賽季打得還行,但今天攻防都稀爛。或許是身體狀況依然受到新冠和今天這高海拔的影響了。

科爾必須得撤下烏布雷,用李打首發。

[–]Knicks akgamestar 3 指標 1小時前

Keep dreaming that 1 point from Draymond will ever be good enough. Its a straight trash performance and sad yall make excuses for him every game.

尼克斯球迷:你們就接著做夢吧,追夢拿1分這就算不錯了。這就是垃圾表現,可悲的是每場都有人為他找藉口。

[–]Warriors papoluca12 7 指標 1小時前

We're one Oubre off the team and one Klay in of being a really good team.

勇士球迷:少個烏布雷,我們就是正常球隊。加個克萊,我們就是強隊。

[–][GSW] Stephen Curry FLUSH_THE_TRUMP 3 指標 1小時前

When I go to sleep I dream of this exact team but with Klay, because he’s literally precisely what we need

勇士球迷:我睡著的時候,就會夢到有克萊的我勇,因為他恰恰就是我們目前需要的。

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[–]Nuggets SALTY_BALLZ 31 指標 1小時前

Jokic is a god

掘金球迷:約基奇就是個神。

[–]San Francisco Warriors Babarotary 23 指標 1小時前

Jokic early season MVP

勇士球迷:他是賽季初期的MVP。

[–]Nuggets ripjocelyn 45 指標 1小時前*

Man Jokic is playing at an all time great level. He’s so dominant and honestly unstoppable on offense

掘金球迷:約基奇目前的表現是歷史頂級的。他統治力太強了,進攻端其實是無解的。

[–]Nuggets Guardax[S] 85 指標 1小時前

I feel like a proud dad watching Jokic go from pudgy back-up center to a MVP candidate. It's been incredible to see him unlock his potential

掘金球迷:看著約基奇從一個替補胖墩兒中鋒成長為MVP候選人,我像個老父親一樣驕傲。看著他釋放潛力真是爽啊

[–]Nuggets dRide12 27 指標 1小時前

Jokić first half foul trouble

Jokić finishing with a triple double

Just your typical day at the office

掘金球迷:約基奇半場陷入犯規麻煩;約基奇全場拿下三雙。這是他的常規操作。

[–]Celtics Gerve 112 指標 1小時前

Idk how hot of a take this is but Jokic could easily play 20 years if he wanted to. Dude does it all and puts minimal wear and tear on his body.

凱爾特人球迷:不知道我這話誇不誇張,可是只要他願意,他可以輕鬆打個20年。這貨太全能了,而且對身體的損耗又是最低的。

[–]piano2020 45 指標 1小時前

I love Jokic's play. He is fun to watch.

我喜歡約基奇的風格,很好看。

[–]Hawks Blumpkin_Party 20 指標 1小時前

He's top 3 most fun guy in the league to watch imo

老鷹球迷:我覺得他的觀賞性是聯盟前三的。

[–]Nuggets spizcraft 37 指標 1小時前

Every now and then I see a comment saying that he will fall off a cliff in his mid 30s when he loses what little athleticism he has. And all I do is shake my head. He has the most sustainable style of play I』ve ever seen in my life. Like 90% of what he does is predicated on IQ, vision, footwork, touch, and craft. And 10% is him simply being a gigantic, strong human being. I wouldn’t be shocked in the slightest if he replicates Duncan in consistency, durability, and longevity and plays winning basketball until 40.

掘金球迷:每隔一段時間,我就會看到有人說他到了三十五六歲失去僅有的那點運動能力,就會斷崖式下滑。我就呵呵了。他是我這輩子見過的打法最養生的球員。他大概有90%是依賴於高球商的預判、視野、腳步、手感和技術。剩下10%才是他那高大強壯的體型。如果他複製了鄧肯那種穩定性、耐操性且把勝利籃球延續到40歲,那我也絲毫不會驚訝。

[–]Raptors chuckhayes44 15 指標 52 分鐘前

100% agree, although this year he’s shown great physical improvement. No way he does that reverse dunk in years past IMO

猛龍球迷:完全同意,不過他本賽季的身體狀態確實改善了。要是放在上賽季,那今天這個轉身反扣肯定是做不到的。

[–]-ChadZilla- 8 指標 1小時前

If he takes care of himself, he』ll be good into his late 30’s at least. He’s just so smart and skilled, athleticism is almost unnecessary

如果他照顧好自己的身體,那他至少三十大幾的時候還會很厲害。他實在太聰明了,技術又好,運動能力對他而言真不是必需的。

[–]Heat RulerFrank 25 指標 1小時前

Below-average shooting night for Jokic. But this was the best defense he's played all season. Very encouraging.

熱火球迷:他今晚的投籃有失水準。卻打出了本賽季最好的個人防守。非常振奮人心。

[–]Nuggets thcharles 20 指標 1小時前

He had like 7 steals last game

掘金球迷:他上場比賽好像有7個搶斷。

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[–]Warriors ADeliciousCashew 79 指標 1小時前

steph leading the warriors with 11 rebounds, just like we all expected

勇士球迷:庫裡居然拿了隊內最高的11個板,這場面恰如你我所料==

[–]alaa_alarashi 18 指標 1小時前

That literally makes no sense, how is your guard leading in Rebounds, where is the effort from literally every other player that was on the court to grab boards

真是說不過去,怎麼就讓後衛成了隊內籃板王呢?其他人搶板的時候幹嘛去了?

[–]Warriors uberdosage 21 指標 1小時前

Our whole team has butter hands

勇士球迷:我們全隊都是黃油手。

[–]Warriors unequivocalotter 14 指標 1小時前

No one goes for the 50/50 balls, Oubre straight up gave up on what should』ve been a jump ball

勇士球迷:沒人衝搶五五開的球,本來有個可以爭球的,烏布雷還直接放棄了

[–]Warriors Leonidas701 6 指標 1小時前

God i wish we didn't have oubre. The man is a ballhog who can barely shoot but keeps insisting on doing it

勇士球迷:真希望我勇沒引進烏布雷啊。這貨太黏球了,投又投不進,又喜歡投。

[–]Lakers Apisit100 38 指標 1小時前

Depressing watching Curry run around just for temmates to miss open shots or take a dumb shot.

湖人球迷:看著庫裡這麼滿場跑,結果隊友回頭除了瞎扔就是空位打鐵,這可真是憋屈

[–]Warriors togavirus 18 指標 1小時前

His teammates miss him when he’s wide open sooo much. Hoping they』ll eventually learn to look for him when he gives up the ball.

勇士球迷:庫裡面前空如大海的時候他的隊友找不到他啊。但願以後庫裡把球傳出去之後,他的隊友們最終能學會尋找他。

[–]Lakers Apisit100 13 指標 1小時前

When Oubre chucked it with about 1:10 left in the game I felt so bad for steph lmao

湖人球迷:比賽還剩1分10秒的時候烏布雷強行扔了一個,我當時老心疼庫裡了,哈哈哈哈

[–]Lakers yaboy_matt 46 指標 1小時前

idec that curry lost, he was amazing tonight

湖人球迷:今天庫裡沒輸,他打得很好。

[–]Heat RulerFrank 9 指標 1小時前

He really showed off his layup package this game. He had some some really nice finishes in the fourth quarter especially.

熱火球迷:他今天確實展示了自己的上籃技能包。尤其是在第四節,他有些籃下終結真心漂亮。

[–]NBA GunsOfArgoll 61 指標 1小時前

He was good, but had some very lazy high-impact turnovers.

他今天打得不錯,不過也有些非常隨意且影響很大的失誤。

[–]Clippers AngleShoot 16 指標 1小時前

team worst -21 /s

快船球迷:全隊最低的正負值-21.

[–]Nets theekumquat 5 指標 1小時前

Some of them were such momentum killers too. They cut it to single digits at one point in the 3rd and off a steal he just chucked it down the court to no one. Rough game for him.

籃網球迷:有些失誤還非常打擊士氣。第三節勇士一度將分差縮小到個位數,剛完成一記搶斷庫裡就往前傳給對方了。他今天打得也挺難受的。

[–]Lakers OrnsteinBagels 10 指標 1小時前

Does anyone understand why Kerr has Curry run a lap around the court to catch the ball, pass it to Wiggins, and never get looked at again? Seems like a terrible way to try and win games and keep your star player healthy.

湖人球迷:為啥科爾要讓庫裡滿場跑圈啊,難道就是為了接球再傳給維金斯然後再也摸不到球?有誰明白嗎?貌似這種方式既不利於贏球也不利於保持球星的健康吧。

[–]San Francisco Warriors Paschalls_Law 6 指標 1小時前

Yeah those marathons Kerr has him run are getting old. He’s not getting as open anymore because nobody is moving or cutting.

勇士球迷:是的,科爾這種馬拉松式跑動過時了。庫裡再也得不到以前那種空位了,因為我勇沒人跑動沒人空切。

[–]Celtics Brad-Stevens 38 指標 1小時前

The Warriors need to shakeup their starting 5/rotations

Surrounding Steph with Wiggins, who's been solid this year but not a very high IQ player or shooter, Oubre who has been abysmal on offense and a super low IQ player, Draymond who doesn't even look to score anymore and Wiseman who is 19 year old rookie just isnt a winning formula.

You can see he likes playing with wings like Baze & Lee more because they actually know what to do on the court

凱爾特人球迷:勇士必須得對首發和輪換做大幅調整。

庫裡身邊是本賽季打得還不錯但球商不高、籃子不算準的維金斯,進攻抓瞎球商超低的烏布雷,再也不打算得分的追夢,還有一個不是贏球標配的19歲菜鳥。

明眼人都看得出,庫裡更喜歡和貝茲莫爾和李這種側翼一起打,因為他們知道該幹嘛。

[–]Warriors Bear4188 10 指標 1小時前

Wiggins defense has been valuable in the main unit. Swap Oubre for Lee so there's someone that can just hit those wide open corner threes Steph generates.

勇士球迷:維金斯的防守還是很有用的。把烏布雷換成李吧,他能投進庫裡創造的那些底角空位三分機會。

[–]Warriors papoluca12 3 指標 1小時前

I think Wiseman should be with Curry out there. He can score pretty well.

Oubre is awful and shouldn't be on the team.

勇士球迷:我覺得懷斯曼搭庫裡還是沒問題的。他也能得分。

烏布雷太菜了,就不該在隊裡。

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[–][GSW] Stephen Curry surajchandrasekhar 39 指標 1小時前

Felt like the nuggets were playing a scrimmage and controlled the game today. The defense by the warriors was pathetic to watch

勇士球迷:感覺掘金今天就是在打練習賽一樣整場都控制著節奏。我勇的防守真是辣眼睛。

[–]Flimsy-Message-5533 4 指標 1小時前

Just pathetic defense today. If Curry's leading the team in rebounds, you know something's up. We'll continue to get eaten by teams with dominant bigs. And Draymond is legit useless if he isn't playing defense.

今天這防守太可憐了。如果庫裡是籃板王,那就是有問題了。我們還是會繼續被那些具備統治級內線的球隊教訓。追夢如果沒防守的話,那就真的沒用了。

[–][CHI] Jimmy Butler LackingInPatience 4 指標 1小時前

If the Warriors had even 1 other good shooter aside from Curry, this offence would be fun to watch.

I love how smooth Jokic's game is. One of the few big men who doesnt just rely on power, but mostly skill.

公牛球迷:但凡勇士還有哪怕一個神射來搭檔庫裡,那進攻就會很好看。

我喜歡約基奇絲滑的球風。他是聯盟中少數幾個主要依靠技巧而不只是力量的內線之一。

[–]Nuggets MasonL52 9 指標 1小時前

which is a great step up for us because usually we only do that for three quarters and play AAU ball for one of them and dig a hole we can't get out of

great to finally put a full game together

掘金球迷:今天我們算是進步很大了,因為我們三四節常常打得很不職業,自己給自己挖坑。

今天總算是全場都打得有模有樣了。

[–][CHI] Derrick Rose jeric13xd 126 指標 1小時前

MALONE FINALLY LEARNED HIS LESSON LOL

Dozier out, Green in for the 4th

公牛球迷:馬龍總算是知道吸取教訓了,哈哈哈哈!!

撤下多齊爾,第四節讓賈麥考-格林上。

[–]Nuggets LeeSin4TheLoss 79 指標 1小時前

Consider me a massive JaMychal Green fan.

掘金球迷:就當我是賈麥考的鐵粉吧

[–]Mavericks rvadarocket 11 指標 1小時前

I am still depressed we didn’t go after him in FA.

Dude is a fucking stud role player

獨行俠球迷:我俠居然在自由市場上沒有去追逐他,我到現在都鬱悶。

特麼這傢伙是個很猛的角色球員。

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來源:Reddit

編譯:雲長刮個痧

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