魔術因小失大錯失鄧肯，美JRs：讓你在飛機上建寵物樂園你也得答應呀
Grant Hill confirms the story about why Orlando didn't get Tim Duncan
格蘭特-希爾證實了有關魔術與鄧肯失之交臂的原因的故事。
視頻連結：希爾談2000年鄧肯與魔術會面的小故事>>
http://t.cn/RRnjxmZ
希爾稱，球隊與鄧肯會晤的那個晚餐他當時在場，時任主帥道格-裡弗斯拒絕了有關鄧肯親屬乘坐球隊專機隨行的要求，之後整個飯桌的氛圍就變了。希爾的妻子後來稱，「你們應該撒個謊啊」。
[–]MavericksDark-Cuban[S] 431 指標 6小時前
Tmac is disgusted
麥迪一口鹽汽水就在嘴邊兒了都。
[–]Wizardsmakeouthill2040 50 指標 5小時前
I don't get it
奇才球迷：我不懂。
[–]76ersiPoopAtChu 241 指標 5小時前
TMac's prime was in Orlando.
麥迪的巔峰期在奧蘭多呀。
[–]Wizardsmakeouthill2040 54 指標 5小時前
No I don't get the video. Why didn't Duncan want to go to Orlando
奇才球迷：不不不，我是說，我沒懂視頻中內容的意思。為什麼當初鄧肯不想去魔術啊？
[–]JazzDeathBySuplex 257 指標 5小時前
Doc wouldn't let Duncan's girl fly on the team plane so Duncan stayed a Spur.
魔術時任主帥道格-裡弗斯沒讓鄧肯當時的女友乘坐球隊專機，所以鄧肯就留在馬刺了。
[–]Jazzwoonbarak 242 指標 5小時前
In hindsight that was probably the best for Duncan himself.
事後看來，這可能是對鄧肯他自己而言最好的選擇。
[–]Knicks BandwagonBushyBrowz 24 指標 1小時前
Well we don't know. He could 3peated in Orlando, then returned to SA and won more. Lol we have no idea what could have been.
額，誰知道是不是呢？他可能在奧蘭多拿下3連冠，然後回到聖安東尼奧，再拿下更多總冠軍。哈哈，世事怎預料，凡人難洞悉。
[–]Timberwolvesemuwarvet[🍰] 982 指標 6小時前
You can see T-Mac's soul leave his body
你能看到視頻裡麥迪氣的都靈魂出竅了。
[–]theclownermb 519 指標 6小時前
that wouldve been fucking disgusting, prime tmac and duncan
我不能接受！巔峰麥迪和巔峰鄧肯呀！
[–]MavericksDark-Cuban[S] 477 指標 6小時前
Prime tmac and Duncan vs Kobe and Shaq in the finals >>>
總決賽上演巔峰麥鄧對陣鯊科，畫面太美啊！
[–]LakersX-Craft 518 指標 5小時前
Another epic finals matchup ruined by the Orlando Magic
湖人球迷：又一組史詩級的總決賽對陣被奧蘭多魔術隊給毀了。
[–]RocketsSJA_YNWA 102 指標 3小時前
Thanks, Magic.
魔術，我謝謝你八輩兒祖宗啊。
[–]NBAtuberippin 67 指標 5小時前
Doc Rivers robbed me of this in my childhood. Motherfuck, that would've been so much more satisfying than those Lakers-Pacers, Lakers-Iverson, and Lakers-Jason Kidd series in the early 00s.
道格-裡弗斯讓我在童年失去了看到麥迪石佛聯手的機會。丟雷老謀！要是那樣的話，21世紀初，湖人魔術的對決，可遠比什麼湖人對步行者啊，湖人戰艾弗森，還有湖人打傑森-基德的系列賽戲碼要更讓球迷感到滿足呀。
[–]theclownermb 44 指標 6小時前
wouldnt the magic have also had the first pick in the draft and still get howard?
而且魔術是不是也一樣能拿到狀元籤，照樣可以抽到霍華德？
[–]Ktron3030 174 指標 5小時前
Dwight was 14 that summer.
老哥，霍華德那年夏天14歲...
[–]NBAMintastic 175 指標 5小時前
[–]MagicMantisTobogginMD 79 指標 5小時前
[–]Ktron3030 15 指標 6小時前*
I don't think we were in a position to get T-Mac, Grant and Duncan that year. I think Tracy was the fallback option since we whiffed on Duncan.
*unless Tracy took less money.
我不覺得那年我們能同時得到麥迪，格蘭特-希爾和鄧肯。我認為麥迪是我們沒能得到鄧肯之後的後手。
*除非麥迪降薪少拿些薪水。
[–]WildYams 50 指標 5小時前
Wrong, I remember it distinctly, the Magic had the cap space to sign all three guys, and would have, if not for Duncan and this weird thing about the private jet.
不是這樣的。我清楚地記得，當時魔術有足夠的薪金空間把他們仨全部籤下，要不是因為鄧肯和這件跟私人飛機有關的怪事兒，這三巨頭可就成了呀。
[–]Ktron3030 16 指標 5小時前
I don't think that's right. We had $18 million in cap room that summer.
http://a.espncdn.com/nba/draft00/s/2000/0628/609326.html
Now, they've added an exciting young player in Miller and have $18 million in salary cap room -- making Orlando one of two teams able to sign two free agents to maximum allowable contracts that would pay $9 million in the first year.
不不不，你說的不對。那年夏天我們只有1800萬美元的空間。
新聞連結：魔術向鄧肯、格蘭特-希爾拋出橄欖枝>>
http://a.espncdn.com/nba/draft00/s/2000/0628/609326.html
引文：
「現在，魔術補充了一名令人興奮的年輕球員邁克-米勒，並擁有1800萬美元的薪金空間——這讓魔術能向2名自由球員提供價值第1年起薪為900萬美元的頂薪合同，聯盟中只有2支球隊有這種條件。」
Tim, Grant and Tracy each signed $9 million dollar max contracts that year:
https://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/misc/salaries01.txt
Rod Strickland (Was) ... $10,000,000
Tim Duncan (SA) ... $9,660,000
Grant Hill (Orl) .. $9,660,000
Tracy McGrady (Orl) .... $9,660,000
Jalen Rose (Ind) .. $9,660,000
鄧肯、希爾還有麥迪，他們每個人那年都籤下了起薪900萬美元的頂薪合同：
連結：2000-01賽季NBA薪資信息>>
https://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/misc/salaries01.txt
引文：
「羅德-斯特裡克蘭（奇才） ... $10,000,000
蒂姆-鄧肯（馬刺） ... $9,660,000
格蘭特-希爾（魔術） .. $9,660,000
特雷西-麥克格雷迪（魔術） .... $9,660,000
杰倫-羅斯（步行者） .. $9,660,000」
[–]Wizardsspekkke 50 指標 4小時前
lol @ 9mil max's compared to now
噗，900萬美元的頂薪合同？！你再跟現在比比。
[–]HornetsKeepItRealTV 23 指標 3小時前
Think about this, everyone likes to talk about Jordan's $30 million salary with the Bulls but Jordan only averaged about $6 million for his NBA salary. The years before his $30 million contracts, he never made more than $4 million from the Bulls. He made his fortune from selling sneakers.
黃蜂球迷：想想看，人人都喜歡討論喬丹在公牛時3000萬美元的薪水，可他在NBA拿到的平均年薪只有大概600萬美元。在3000萬美元的合同之前，他的年薪從沒大於過400萬美元。喬丹是靠運動鞋的銷售積累起來的財富。
[–][TOR] Tracy McGradyWelfare_Mom 8 指標 4小時前
That's rude as hell
拒絕讓他的家人乘球隊專機？這也太無禮了吧。
[–]PlanesBlade 59 指標 4小時前
I think it was/is more normal than you might assume. Lots of the time, team planes are only for players and staff
我覺得無論是當時，還是現在，這種做法都比你想像的要正常吧。很多時候，球隊專機只允許球員和球隊工作人員乘坐。
[–][BOS] Paul PierceDaLyricalMiracleWhip 35 指標 3小時前
I was gonna say, in what other profession is it expected for a company to ferry around their employees' significant others?
凱爾特人球迷：我剛想說這個呢，在其它行業裡，你會要求一個公司用飛機接送公司僱員的親屬麼？
[–]askingaquestion142 33 指標 3小時前
i'm a huge spurs fan, and i was a little surprised by reddits reaction to this. i was more embarrassed that Duncan wanted to be treated differently (which is out of character)
我是名忠實的馬刺球迷，我很驚訝Reddit對這件事會是這樣的反應。更讓我尷尬的是，鄧肯居然想要被區別對待，享有特權（這跟他的性格不符啊）。
[–]Senseisntsocommon 25 指標 6小時前
That's why you say hey we can charter a private jet as needed. Total cost for doing that for 41 games is at most a couple million.
這時候就該回答，嗯，如果有需要的話，我們可以租一架私人飛機給你。這事兒41場客場比賽下來最多也就花幾百萬美元。
[–]Lakersrebeltrillionaire 40 指標 6小時前
Literally cost the owner possibly a billion in revenue + valuation for a $1M expense per year. #ThanksDoc
湖人球迷：就因為這每年100萬美元的開銷，反倒讓球隊老闆在收益和估值上損失了可能有10億美元。#謝謝裡弗斯
[–][GSW] Kelenna Azubuikegetsituated 149 指標 6小時前
Damn. Tmac's reaction is almost heartbreaking
我去。麥迪的反應太讓人心碎了。
[–][ORL] Reggie TheusTkinzel517 598 指標 6小時前
I have never hated Doc Rivers more in my life
魔術球迷：我這輩子從沒有這麼恨過道格-裡弗斯。
[–]Magicwassup-dawg 100 指標 6小時前
my heart hurts
魔術球迷：我這個心啊，哇涼哇涼的！
[–]Ktron3030 74 指標 5小時前
We would have wasted Duncan anyways. It would have been him, Darrell Armstrong, Ewing, Mike Miller, Horace Grant, and Pat Garrity waiting for Grant Hill to get healthy.
Tracy would have ended up in Miami with Alonzo Mourning.
好啦，反正我們得到鄧肯也會浪費掉他的。那時就成了他，達雷爾-阿姆斯特朗，尤因，邁克-米勒，霍勒斯-格蘭特還有帕特-加裡蒂等著格蘭特-希爾康復的《非常6+1》呀。
麥迪呢則會前往邁阿密與阿朗佐-莫寧搭檔。
[–]PistonsJaerba 18 指標 4小時前
I mean, you could've had Duncan next to Ben.
活塞球迷：我想說，你們本來能組成鄧肯和本-華萊士的雙塔組合啊。
[–]Warriorskris_takahashi 18 指標 3小時前
At the time though, no one really figured Hill would miss as much time as he did.
In 2000 if you asked 100 people who would you rather have, Grant Hill or Tracy McGrady, probably 99 would say Hill and only if #100 was Tracy's mother.
Same goes for Big Ben, no one really knew, whereas Grant Hill was a surefire Hall of Famer in his prime.
不過那時候沒人知道希爾會缺席那麼長時間。
2000年的時候，要是你問100個人他們，希爾和麥迪兩個人裡更想要誰的話，可能有99個人會選擇希爾，而那第100個人，還是麥迪他媽媽。
大本也是同理，沒人能猜到他會達到那種高度，但希爾在巔峰時期那絕對是名人堂級別的球員啊。
[–]Cooljo 33 指標 5小時前
But that was never stated as being the main reason why Duncan to Orlando didn't happen. Bowen never said that either.
I find it very hard to believe he was all ready to go to Orlando but said screw it after Doc said no.
但是從來都沒人說過乘坐專機這事兒是鄧肯與魔術擦肩而過的主要原因啊。布魯斯-鮑文也從沒這麼說過。
我很難相信鄧肯都準備加盟魔術了，但是在裡弗斯拒絕了這一點後這事兒就吹了。
[–][ORL] Scott Skilessubutaime 34 指標 5小時前
The widely reported rumor here at the time was that Tim's wife didnt like Orlando and DRob made a last minute pitch.
魔術球迷：當時流傳甚廣的說法是，鄧肯加盟魔術流產是因為鄧肯的妻子不喜歡奧蘭多+上將最後時刻力挽狂瀾。
[–]Pelicanserldn123 428 指標 6小時前
Doc should get his ring stripped for that lol
What on earth was he thinking.
就衝這事兒，裡弗斯就應該被剝奪總冠軍戒指。
他當時究竟琢磨啥呢。
[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 29 指標 6小時前
Don't let a player hijack your front office probably. Made the wrong call obviously
可能是覺得不能讓一名球員凌駕於管理層之上吧。很明顯裡弗斯做出了錯誤的決定。
[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookAnti_Thon 230 指標 6小時前
He shoulda lied definitely but it was probably Tim's wife/girlfriend that asked... Grant Hill thought he was slick saying entourage
裡弗斯真的應該撒個小謊搪塞過去完了，但是這可能是鄧肯的妻子（或者說女友吧）提的要求吧……格蘭特-希爾在視頻裡說是鄧肯的「夥伴」，哈哈他還覺得自己挺機智避開了雷呢。
[–]Spurslaststance 29 指標 4小時前
100% TD's wife asked the question. If this article is true, she wanted to have a death grip on TD.
https://deadspin.com/tim-duncan-is-in-the-middle-of-a-remarkably-messy-divor-510172889
Supposedly she cheated on TD which triggered the divorce proceedings. I guess cheaters are afraid of their SO cheating on them?
馬刺球迷：這絕對是鄧肯的妻子提的。要是這篇文章的內容不假，那他的妻子是想完全控制住鄧肯的。
新聞連結：蒂姆-鄧肯正經歷著非常混亂的離婚糾紛>>
據說她對鄧肯有所不忠，並因此引發了他們二人之間的離婚訴訟。這可能就是潘金蓮怕武大郎被出軌？
[–]Pelicanserldn123 157 指標 6小時前
You definitely lie until he signs on that dotted line.
Such a small ask aswell to cost the GOAT PF
是不是傻，你在他籤合同之前一定得連哄帶騙啊。
就這麼一點小要求，結果丟了史上最佳的大前鋒啊……
[–]Knicksshy247er 112 指標 6小時前*
Shit, for Duncan you rent a private jet to fly her around, as long as he signs the contract.
我勒個去，只要鄧肯能在合同上簽字，為了他，租架私人飛機讓她女友坐都值啊。
[–]cowincanada 20 指標 4小時前
i think thats also why Td's not with that person anymore. to ask that was so anti-TD
我覺得這也是鄧肯和她分道揚鑣的原因所在——這樣的要求實在是太不鄧肯了。
[–]HeatCaveman_Z 52 指標 4小時前
She also cheated
綠帽也是原因啊...
[–]UltimateZ906 24 指標 3小時前
Who in their right mind would cheat on Tim fucking Duncan
有哪個腦子正常的人會對鄧肯不忠啊。
[–]RocketsRiskRegsiter 27 指標 3小時前
Someone who needs more flair that fundamentals
不是人人都有領悟基本功的慧根的，她可能更喜歡天賦稟異那款？
[–]SpursAsnSensation 145 指標 6小時前*
First all his injuries and now this story haha. Tmac probably the unluckiest player to have been denied a ring.
A few seconds later Paul Pierce says that when Doc came to Boston he told KG that his family would be able to travel on the plane LMAO
馬刺球迷：哈哈，先是他遭受的傷病，現在又是這個故事，麥迪可能是沒撈到戒指的球員裡最倒黴的。
後來保羅-皮爾斯說，裡弗斯來波士頓時告訴加內特，說加內特的家人可以乘坐球隊專機出行，噗哈哈哈哈真是笑死我了。
[–]Rocketsbobbydinner 173 指標 6小時前
My heart breaks for TMac. Even if Grant still has his injury issues in Orlando, TMac probably gets a ring or at least gets to compete for one with Duncan there with him. Damn man.
火箭球迷：真為麥迪感到心碎。哪怕希爾在魔術遭受傷病的困擾，麥迪依舊曾有可能得到一枚戒指，或者至少能有機會和鄧肯聯手去衝擊一次總冠軍啊。
造化弄人啊。
[–]RocketsHwangdda 44 指標 5小時前
They probably make the finals for sure. The East was hot trash in the early aughts. Would they have won? Hell no-- especially with the likes of Pat Garrity being one of their better offensive options.
火箭球迷：他們二人打進總決賽基本沒什麼問題。東部早些年競爭壓力不大。不過他們能拿總冠軍麼？當然沒戲。連帕特-加裡蒂這號人物都算球隊不錯的進攻選擇，你說有戲麼。
[–]HornetsHamburglarBunz 80 指標 5小時前*
I'm sorry Magic fans. Doc Rivers is a moron, if Tim Duncan wants to install a petting zoo on your plane, you let him do it, let alone his wife and kids.
真為魔術球迷感到遺憾。裡弗斯就是個白痴，哪怕鄧肯想在飛機上建一個寵物樂園你都得答應啊，更別提帶著他的妻兒了。
[–]Westbelieveinbenning 68 指標 6小時前
damn how many franchises has he fucked over lol
唉，裡弗斯搞砸過多少球隊啊。
[–]Hawksdaeve 23 指標 4小時前
Just wait til his grandson needs a max contract
這算啥，你等小小裡弗斯拿到頂薪合同的。
[–]Hoops_Junkie2 50 指標 6小時前
It's funny how these guys get praised as super loyal when he had a foot out the door. Kobe also was so close to being a Bull.
太逗了，這些球員因為無比忠誠而備受讚譽，但都曾險些離開球隊。科比也曾無比接近加盟公牛呢。
[–]CavaliersAyuhno 89 指標 6小時前*
Kobe literally demanded a trade lol
Funny how "loyalty" works
(No shade at Kobe btw, he was wasting some of the best years of his career while the organization gave him fucking Smush Parker...)
科比是正八經地要求湖人交易過自己。
「忠誠」這個詞兒，真值得玩味啊。
（話說回來，我也不是黑科比，球隊給他配備的是斯馬什-帕克這種貨色，他職業生涯最好的那段時光中的幾年都浪費掉了……）
[–][GSW] Kelenna Azubuikegetsituated 29 指標 6小時前
Luol Deng was almost a Laker!
wait..
當時洛爾-鄧差點兒就加盟湖人啦！
誒，等會兒……
[–]Lakersram0h 13 指標 5小時前
it is kind of the same as what bron does when it comes to FA and im all for it. They are using their leverage to make sure FOs dont sit on their tush and let these stars waste their prime
湖人球迷：這有點兒像詹姆斯成為自由球員時的那些舉動，而我完全支持他的決定。他們在利用自己的影響力來確保管理層不會毫無作為，確保自己作為巨星的巔峰年華不會被白白浪費。