Wilt Chamberlain once blocked 23 shots on National Television. Christmas Day, 1968, on ABC. Because the Half-Time Interview pissed him off.Misc.
1968年,威爾特-張伯倫在ABC電視臺全美直播的聖誕大戰中完成23次封蓋。原因是中場採訪把他搞毛了。
新聞連結:張伯倫曾在中場時被記者惹怒,下半場狂送15個封蓋>>https://voice.hupu.com/nba/2312267.html
虎撲6月16日訊 媒體Imgur今日發文報導了前NBA球員威爾特-張伯倫的一段往事,張伯倫在上半場結束時因為記者採訪時的一句話「威爾特,為什麼你拒絕教練讓你做的事情?」而生氣。
隨後被惹怒的張伯倫在下半場比賽中得到11籃板15蓋帽,全場得到15分(8投6中,罰球9罰3中)15籃板23蓋帽6助攻。
太陽全隊每4次投籃就會有一次被他封蓋,很可能是NBA紀錄;太陽在張伯倫接受採訪後的下半場投籃命中率僅為24%;太陽上半場領先24分,最終全場比賽輸掉了20分,在北京時間1968年12月26日的聖誕大戰中,湖人最終以119-99戰勝太陽。
[–]Nuggetsjdorje 50 指標 23小時前
Was his coach supposedly wanting him to block more shots? What does "why don't you do what your coach wants" refer to? Any way to know?
當時他的教練是希望他能蓋多幾個帽嗎?(中場採訪時記者說的)「為什麼你不完成教練的指令呢?」是指什麼?誰給科普一下?
[–]Cavaliersdantheman9758[S] 83 指標 23小時前
Yes his coach wanted defense out of him. But if you read the article the question was aimed at why Wilt won't play in the high post. (Wilt had expressed he need to stay low because he's a low-post center, and can't grab rebounds or score well out that far and he was brought to the Lakers for that job). 1969 was a polarizing year for Wilt and the Lakers. 2018 social media era would have had a field day with it.
樓主:是的,教練希望張伯倫打出強力防守。不過如果你讀了那篇報導,記者當時的問題主要是質疑為什麼張伯倫不在高位打一打(張伯倫之前表示,他需要在低位活動,因為他是一個低位中鋒,在高位就不容易搶籃板或得分了,而他去湖人就是幹這個活的)。1969年對張伯倫和湖人來說是兩極化的一年。要是這事發生在當今的社交媒體時代,那大家絕對會對此大做文章的。
[–]Nuggetsjdorje 45 指標 23小時前
They came back from 24 down to win by 20?
那場比賽本來落後24分的湖人最後贏了對手20分?
[–]Cavaliersdantheman9758[S] 74 指標 23小時前
That’s correct, thanks to Wilts incredible defensive performance no doubt.
樓主:沒有錯,毫無疑問,這多虧了張伯倫難以置信的防守表現。
[–]Lakershulksmash1234 52 指標 22小時前
Imagine stopping 46 potential points scored... really cannot process how dominant Wilt was
湖人球迷:張伯倫阻止了46分的潛在得分,這是一種什麼概念……真的無法想像張伯倫當時的統治力。
[–]CavaliersYash_We_Can 73 指標 21小時前
I gotta know what was going through their heads
"Gee, this man just got his 22nd block this game on us. Guess I'll try another layup"
我很想知道對手當時在想什麼。
「天哪,這貨剛在我們頭上完成了本場比賽第22次蓋帽。好吧,我再上個籃試試。」
[–]egoz86 930 指標 23小時前
and that's just the warm up, at the night he's gonna bed their women until dawn to complete the whole pissed off.
而這對他來說只是熱熱身。與對手的女人們持戰到天明才是徹底把怒火發洩完的重頭戲。
[–]RaptorsPostsDifferentThings 294 指標 23小時前
"get cucked" ~ wilt
張伯倫:「綠帽子來嘍。」
[–]NBASeppGoodell 106 指標 20小時前
The OG pipe layer
大炮祖師爺。
[–]KingsSeven_Sayer 87 指標 20小時前
This sub is obsessed with the sex lives of these players
這個話題區都太沉迷於球員們的性生活了。
[–]NBASeppGoodell 152 指標 19小時前
almost like having insanely hot girls literally research where you are so they can try and fuck you is a strange and fascinating concept for pretty much every guy on earth
超級火辣的妞沒日沒夜的研究你在哪,就是為了能投懷送抱被你幹上一炮……這個概念對地球上基本每個男人來說都既奇怪又讓人著迷吧。
[–]Lakers_CodyB 87 指標 19小時前
the only time females use analytics ehhh amirite?
那也是女人唯一一次運用分析學的時候,呃呃呃俺沒說錯吧?開個玩笑而已啦。
[–][BOS] Jaylen BrownOrangeKookie 457 指標 23小時前
Larry Brown did say 40 year old Wilt dominated NBA legends like Magic or Bernard King in the 80s with just college players on his team in a pickup game. Maybe he's really that dominant
凱爾特人球迷:拉裡-布朗曾說,在80年代,40歲的張伯倫曾帶著一堆大學球員在一場野球賽中統治了魔術師和伯納德-金這樣的NBA傳奇。也許他真的就是那麼有統治力。
[–]TimberwolvesHotBananaa 294 指標 23小時前
Wouldn’t doubt it. Wilt was like 50 yrs old playing pro volleyball. I think he may be in the volleyball hall of fame actually as well
我不會懷疑其真實性。張伯倫50歲左右的時候還打職業排球呢。我記得他好像還入選了排球名人堂。
[–]KingsDonkey-Whisperer 237 指標 23小時前
He would be the best player today. Guy was an absolute athletic freak ... someone said something I liked, he's basically a taller and more athletic version of AD.
放到現在,張伯倫會是聯盟第一人。他簡直就是個運動怪物,有人說過這麼一句話我挺喜歡:張伯倫基本上就是個子更高運動能力更強的濃眉。
[–]TimberwolvesHotBananaa 430 指標 22小時前
7』2
300+ lbs
40」 vertical
Fastest player in the NBA
Bench press 400 lbs
Wilt is probably the greatest athlete of all time
身高2.18米、130多公斤、89釐米垂直彈跳、NBA速度最快球員、臥推180公斤——
張伯倫可能是史上最偉大的運動員。
[–][MIL] Kareem Abdul-Jabbarthundercock88 198 指標 21小時前
1. Wilt
2. Bo Jackson
3. Zach Randolph
1、張伯倫;
2、博-傑克遜;[譯註1]
3、扎克-蘭多夫,TX。
[譯註1]博-傑克遜是一名全能運動員,曾參加過職業橄欖球聯賽和職業棒球聯賽,均獲得不俗成就。
[–]CelticsCumMilkshake 135 指標 22小時前
I think one dude on here once said that Wilt is like an urban/folk legend. Every new story you hear about him is more ridiculous than the last. Truly one of the best athletes to ever live.
凱爾特人球迷:我記得有個JR曾說過,張伯倫這個人就像民間傳說。你聽到的每一個關於他的新故事都比上一個更荒謬。他真的是是有史以來最好的運動員之一。
[–]russkiwi012 45 指標 23小時前
Dude was crazy he could play in any era dude was probably the strongest to ever play in the NBA
張伯倫太牛B了,他可以在任何年代打球。他也許是NBA歷史上最強壯的球員。
[–]Celticstrelos6 33 指標 19小時前
Wilt standing next to Shaq
凱爾特人球迷:張伯倫跟奧尼爾站一塊兒如下圖所示:
[–]SunsThomB96 36 指標 19小時前
Maybe MJ and LeBron is just recency bias and Wilt is the GOAT.
也許,喬老爺和勒布朗的歷史第一人之爭只是我們因為近因效應而造成的錯覺。也許,張伯倫才是史上最佳。
[–]Warriorstorturetrilogy 322 指標 23小時前
If Wilt played during the era of regularly televised games or where recording was accurate and well documented he would be the undisputed GOAT.
勇士球迷:如果張伯倫在有電視轉播或者有精確數據記錄和存檔的年代打球的話,他會是無可爭議的史上最佳。
[–]TimberwolvesHotBananaa 87 指標 23小時前
Yeah it wouldn’t even be close.
He would be Babe Ruth. While Ruth was hitting 40-50 home runs the 2nd most was like 15. It was absolute dominance. Much like Wilt
是的,如果真是那樣其他人根本沒得比。
他會成為籃球界的貝比-魯斯[譯註2]。當魯斯打出40到50次全壘打時,第二名往往只有15次這樣子。絕對的碾壓級地位,跟(放到今天打球的)張伯倫會很像。
[譯註2]:貝比-魯斯是美國職業棒球運動員,他帶領紐約揚基隊取得多次世界大賽冠軍,有「棒球之神」之稱。
[–]NBASeppGoodell 43 指標 20小時前
This is why the whole "different era" stuff is bullshit. All you should be compared to is your peers. Yes, current LeBron could probably time travel to Wilts era and dominate. And Wilt probably doesn't drop 100 on modern athletes. But Ruth also probably doesn't hit 60 against modern pitching.
這就是為什麼「年代不同沒法比」的說法都是狗屁,跟同時期的球員作比較就好了啊!誠然,現在的勒布朗穿越回張伯倫主宰的年代打球的話或許可以統治聯盟;誠然,張伯倫在現代籃球運動員面前可能得不到100分;魯斯和現代投手的對決中可能也打不出60次全壘打。
But against who they DID play against, they were so far and away better than everyone else it's not even close. Except for Bill Russell. He was also a god. But that's like a Ronaldo/Messi debate. Typically you don't get two GOATs at once
但如果和他們(張伯倫、魯斯)對抗過的人作比較的話,他們都能把其他人甩出個十萬八千裡,除了比爾-拉塞爾,指環王當年也是神的存在。不過那時候比較像C羅和梅西之爭。通常一個時代不會同時有兩名史上最佳級別的球員。
[–]WarriorsMacDerfus 39 指標 19小時前
IDK, I think wilt was better than russell, but the celtics were better than Wilt's teams.
我也不知道,我倒覺得張伯倫比拉塞爾厲害,但是凱爾特人比張伯倫所在的球隊更強大。
[–]Salami_On_Rye 122 指標 22小時前
Maybe.
But what's interesting is that my kid has this book written for kids about various famous basketball players. The book was written a while back - maybe 20 years ago - but it has like two or three pages on various famous players throughout history and some facts about them.
也許吧。
但有趣的是,我的孩子有這麼一本兒童讀物,內容是對多個著名籃球運動員的講述。這本書是在大約20年前寫的,大概有兩三頁講的是史上著名球員們都有誰,還有關於他們的一些事實。
To get to the point, in their fact sheet on Bill Russell they state that sometime in the early 80s (don't remember the exact year) there was a poll of professional sports writers to name the GOAT and Russell won the title.
劃重點:在那本書的事實一欄裡,他們寫道,在80年代早期(不記得確切年份),一批職業體育作家們搞了個關於誰是史上最佳的投票,而拉塞爾贏得了這個稱號。
All that to say, these were sports writers, many of whom were likely familiar with both Wilt and Russell and may have covered games from both later in their careers (or even earlier in their careers if they were very seasoned sports writers). Yet they still chose Russell over Wilt.
我想表達的是,這些人可是體育作家,他們中的許多人很可能對張伯倫和拉塞爾都很熟悉,而且對他們倆職業生涯後期(甚至是早期,如果他們很有資歷的話)的比賽進行過報導。然而,他們仍然認為拉塞爾比張伯倫更偉大。
Could have been due to the rings. Could have been due to Russell focused on the team and Wilt focused on the individual. But in any event, I found it interesting.
也許是因為戒指。也許是因為拉塞爾以團隊為重,而張伯倫則以自我為中心。不管怎麼樣,我覺得挺有趣的。
EDIT: A quick Google search turned this up:
In 1980, he was named to the NBA 35th Anniversary All-Time Team. That same year, he was voted Greatest Player in the History of the NBA by the Professional Basketball Writers Association of America.
http://www.nba.com/history/legends/profiles/bill-russell
So here we have professional basketball writers naming Russell the greatest player ever in 1980.
補充:谷歌一下之後的發現:
1980年,拉塞爾入選NBA35周年史上最佳陣容。同年,他被美國職業籃球作家協會評選為NBA史上最佳球員。
相關連結:比爾-拉塞爾個人英文簡介>>http://www.nba.com/history/legends/profiles/bill-russell
所以,在1980年,職業籃球作家認為拉塞爾是史上最佳球員。
[–]WarriorsMacDerfus 46 指標 20小時前
My view is that Wilt was the better player and the Celtics were the better team than anything Wilt had. Wilt only beat out those Celtics once, despite his talents.
Now, Wilt was still the better player, but there's only so much one individual can do.
勇士球迷:我的看法是,張伯倫是更好的球員,而凱爾特人則比張伯倫待過的所有球隊都要強。儘管張伯倫很有天賦,但他也只擊敗過凱爾特人一次。
雖然張伯倫依然比拉塞爾要強,但一個人能做到的也就只有那麼多了。