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會議背景:濃眉上賽季的防守是我們有目共睹的,最近牆外網友@OrangeBounce提出一個問題,問及濃眉在隊史上的防守地位引發了熱烈討論。
今日會議資料來自@OrangeBounce
Is AD the best defensive player in franchise history?
濃眉是隊史最佳防守球員嗎?
The Lakers greats include some of the most legendary players the NBA has ever seen: Mikan, Elgin, West, Wilt, Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Shaq, Kobe, Pau, LeBron, AD...
湖人從來都不乏超級巨星:麥肯、貝勒、韋斯特、魔術師、賈巴爾、沃西、奧尼爾、科比、大加、詹姆斯、濃眉……
But the question is, can you think of a greater defensive player than prime AD? We all know he should have been defensive player of the year last year. Michael Cooper obviously comes to mind, and would be his main competition IMO. Shaq was pretty decent, and prime Kobe was a perimeter defensive god, as well as LeBron when he tries.
但是你能想到有哪位比巔峰濃眉的防守還要好的嗎?我們都知道濃眉才應該是去年的DPOY,我第一個想到的就是庫珀(5奪nba冠軍5次防守一陣1次DPOY),在我看來他是這個榮譽的有力爭奪者。沙克也不錯,當然,別忘了巔峰科比的外線防守可是永遠滴神,詹姆斯的話,只要他想他就能防得很好。
I just don't think anyone can touch AD on the defensive end when it comes to IQ, touch and feel, athleticism, blocks, P&R defense, ability to guard 1-5 at an elite level, quickness to stay with speedy guards, size to body up the biggest guys. He is a unicorn. What are your thoughts?
但是我還是覺得沒人比得上現在的濃眉,不管是從球商球感運動能力都很恐怖,有外線的速度也有內線的身體,能從外線防到內線,從1號防到5號,還能經常請對面開小灶吃火鍋,他就是獨一無二的。老鐵們怎麼看?
以下網友對湖人隊史最佳防守球員展開了激烈討論:
@wwgaray
AD is in his prime and elite all over the court. I』ve seen him shut down the paint and the perimeter; sometimes both in a single play. It’s tough to think of an ex laker that could do both possession to possession, game to game, and in the finals.
巔峰的濃眉,就真的無所不能。我真的就見他從看他外線內線兩手抓,有時候一個球他都能從外線防到內線。我實在想不到以前有哪個湖人球員能做到這些,我的防守區域,我來,你的區域,還是我來,每一場都是這樣,甚至在總決賽也經常上演這樣的戲碼。
@N2trvl
Kareem was an 11 time All NBA team defensive player, early in his career, including with Bucks, but still a number of times with the Lakers. He and Cooper are right up there. Kareem and AD have a lot in common. I can’t say I have seen enough body of work to make AD greatest Laker defender ever. Maybe in a few more years.
雖然賈巴爾在湖人時期拿的防守一陣少,但是別忘了早些時候,當年還在雄鹿,那防守一陣得拿到手軟,別忘了這個11次防守一陣的男人好吧。所以這問題就很簡單啊,他和庫珀嘛。賈巴爾和濃眉很像,但是我只能說濃眉現在湖人隊史上還是個弟弟,我看不到太多能讓我覺得他是隊史最佳的表現,可能幾年後就不一樣了吧。
@3nnui
Cooper is the ez answer, but in thinking about it, he is, because he makes his teammates better by allowing perimeter players to be more aggressive in their defense because he is back there to protect the rim. Also, he easily covers two players on the weakside by being so long and athletic.
用腳趾頭想都知道選庫珀,你仔細想想看,就是因為他在籃下護筐,外線球員才可以大膽保持防守侵略性,甚至他可以在弱側一防二,因為他太高運動能力太好了
So while Coop is arguably the best on ball defender the lakers ever had, AD is the best overall defender. Even better than Kareem or Shaq who were also great forces on defense. AD's mobility is next level. We are truly blessed.
所以庫珀可以說是隊史最好的防守球員,而濃眉算得上其他球員裡是整體防守裡最好的。因為他的移動能力太出色了,即使是賈巴爾和奧尼爾這種防守大閘,我也覺得比不上濃眉都防守能力。想想我們也太走運了,真香。
@John_The_Reddit_Man
Kobe or Cooper were probably better perimeter defenders. Early 80s Kareem was probably up there defensively as well in the pain. AD had the combination of both that I don’t think we』ve seen before
只論外線防守的話,可能還是科比或者庫珀佔上風。八十年代初的賈巴爾可能可以拼一拼,何況他還帶著傷。濃眉的話,就真是融合怪了,內外兩手抓。
@OBS_INITY
For this era of basketball, he is. Being switchable and guarding the 3 point line were not always important.
小球時代確實他是最佳,可是以前又不注重這種換防和外線防守。
@Jtizzle1231
Defense.....and no cooper?
你說防守,然後不帶上庫珀的啊
@Xc0liber
Although is a short stint but Dennis Rodman did played with the lakers
雖然就只效力了很短的時間,但是羅德曼確確實實為湖人打過球
@darkshark21
I was excited because I got more familiar with the game back then.
Then I didn’t see him anymore and my father didn’t tell me what happened.
羅德曼!爺青回!當時我還很經常看呢。後來我就再也沒見過他了,我爸也沒告訴我發生了什麼
@yepitsdevon
Any time I hear about Michael Coopers defense, I think of Kobe’s pre-draft workout where he cooked him.
每次我聽到庫珀我就想起,那個男人在試訓時把他打爆了
人物百科
麥可·庫帕(Michael Cooper),1956年4月15日出生於美國加利福尼亞州洛杉磯,前美國職業籃球運動員,司職得分後衛/小前鋒,現任美國BIG3聯賽3’s Company隊主教練 。
麥可·庫帕畢業於新墨西哥大學。在1978年NBA選秀中,麥可·庫帕於第3輪第60位被洛杉磯湖人隊選中,職業生涯曾效力於洛杉磯湖人隊與意甲聯賽羅馬維爾圖斯隊,5次奪得NBA總冠軍(1980;1982;1985;1987-88),1987年榮獲NBA年度最佳防守球員獎,5次入選NBA最佳防守陣容一陣(1982;1984;1985;1987-88),3次入選NBA最佳防守陣容二陣(1981;1983;1986)。1990年選擇從NBA退役並加盟意甲球隊羅馬維爾圖斯 。
1991年,麥可·庫帕正式宣布退役 。以防守而聞名的他是AIR FORCE 1最早的六個代言人之一。
2014年7月,麥可·庫帕受聘為WNBA亞特蘭大夢想隊主教練。2018年6月11日,麥可·庫珀加盟美國BIG3聯賽擔任3’s Company隊主教練。