15號秀倫納德領銜11屆最強5人， 天賦深度可怕，11屆能否一戰09屆？
[Simmons] Best players from the 2011 Draft... Kawhi (15) Isaiah (60) Kyrie (1) Butler (30) Klay (11) (twitter.com)
比爾西蒙斯：來自11屆新秀最強球員裡。。。
倫納德（15順位），小託馬斯（60順位），歐文（狀元），巴特勒（30順位），克萊(11順位）
[–][BOS] Marcus SmartRonFucking_Swanson 199 指標 11小時前
Before anyone gets worked up by the order:
Bill Simmons: "This wasn't in order - if it was in order I would have ranked them. I think these were the best 5 guys in some order (Kawhi as 1 obviously)"
在大家對排名開撕之前，我先替你們上了：
比爾西蒙斯後來的推特：「以上排名不分先後， 如果要我排的話，我覺得這就是那屆最強的5人（倫納德顯然排第一）」
[–]Maverickssryan8913 59 指標 10小時前
I think this is the most accurate list.
我覺得這就是最精確的排名。
[–][BOS] John HavlicekParsnipPizza 25 指標 5小時前*
Irving/Klay/Butler are interchangable behind Kawhi.
倫納德之後，歐文/克萊/巴特勒的位置是可以交換的。
[–]Celticstherestoomuch 47 指標 5小時前
Jimmy Butler is definitely better than Klay Thompson.
巴特勒肯定是要比克萊湯普森更強的。
[–]Trail BlazersnotDAME 11 指標 4小時前
Klay couldn't be a #1 option on a team imo
個人看法克萊沒法做一支球隊的大當家。
[–]Leto__II 237 指標 10小時前
Wolves drafted Derrick Williams #2...dark days.
森林狼在那屆選秀裡用榜眼選了德裡克-威廉士。。。暗無天日
[–]Grizzliesmopiwan 138 指標 10小時前
He seemed like a can't miss prospect
德裡克在當時來看就是那種你沒法錯過的潛力天賦。
[–]RaptorsCorky_Ramirez 65 指標 8小時前
My top 5 on draft day looked something like: 1) Williams; 2) Irving; 3) Jan Vesely; 4) Jonas Valanciunas; 5) Kawhi. I legit believed in Williams being something special, same with the JVs.
那屆選秀我當時個人預測的前5號秀是： 1，德裡克威廉士， 2，歐文 3，維塞利， 4， 瓦蘭， 5，倫納德。 我當時真的相信威廉士有著獨特的天賦， 同樣瓦蘭也是如此。
[–]Wolves BandwagonNinjavelociraptor2 101 指標 7小時前
Most people did not have Kawhi that high
大多數人當時並沒有把倫納德的順位看得那麼高。
[–]RaptorsCorky_Ramirez 92 指標 7小時前
I remember distinctly believing in him and I am very proud of that, however Williams and the JVs are players I am not proud to have had held in such high regard.
我記得當時我對倫納德特別有信心，我為此感到非常自豪。但對威廉士和瓦蘭抱有那麼高的期望，這點我就沒法自吹了。
[–]NBAwhy_rob_y 16 指標 4小時前
Maybe not 5th, but a lot of mock drafts had him top 10 (that's why it was a draft day surprise that he dropped to 15 - and I remember thinking it was crazy that Indiana got him since similar things happened with Danny Granger years earlier, not to mention that they also took a lottery SF the previous year in Paul George). These are the mock drafts I'm just grabbing off of Google's first page of results right now:
也許倫納德當時沒有被看到第5順位那麼高， 但很多選秀預測都把倫納德放在了前10（這就是為什麼他掉到第15順位讓人很吃驚， 我記得當時都覺得步行者選擇倫納德太瘋狂了，因為多年前他們也是這樣選了格蘭傑， 更不用提當時他們還在前1年還用樂透秀選了小前鋒泡椒）。
從谷歌裡查來的當時的選秀預測：
BR預測倫納德第8順位， nbadraft預測倫納德第9順位，draftexpresst預測倫納德第14順位，這是我見過最低的。 realgm預測倫納德第4順位，這是我見過最高的。 sbnation預測倫納德第8順位
· Bleacher Report had Kawhi 8th
· nbadraft.net had Kawhi 9th
· Draft Express had him 14th, which is the lowest I've seen
· RealGM had him 4th, which is the highest I've seen)
· SBNation had him 8th
[–]Celticssahsan10 109 指標 10小時前
Does 2011 beat 2009 draft?
Curry, Harden, Blake, DeRozan as all-stars. Quality starters like Jrue, Teague, Rubio, Lawson, Collison, Carroll, Wes, Ingles, Tyreke, Taj.
2011 has Kawhi, Kyrie, Butler, Klay, IT, Kemba, as all-stars with quality starters such as Tristan Thompson, Parsons, Kanter, Jackson, Valanciunas, Biyombo, Knight, Morris twins, Vucevic, Shumpert, Tobias, Faried, Mirotic. I think the star power of 2009 is better but 2011 was deep as hell
11屆新秀能勝過09屆新秀嗎？
09屆：庫裡，哈登，格裡芬，德羅贊都是全明星。 出色的首發球員：霍勒迪，蒂格，盧比奧，勞森，科裡森，韋斯利詹森，英格爾斯，泰瑞克埃文斯，吉布森。
11屆有倫納德，歐文，巴特勒，克萊，小託馬斯，肯巴這些全明星， 出色的首發球員：TT，帕森斯，坎特，雷吉，瓦蘭，比永博，奈特，莫裡斯雙胞胎，武切維奇，香珀特，託拜亞斯，法裡亞德，米羅蒂奇。
我覺得09屆的星光要更強一些， 但11屆的深度碉堡了。
[–]RaptorsWatchadoinfoo 75 指標 8小時前
Most of the starting AS came from these two drafts damn
Curry harden and Derozan for 09
Kawhi kyrie and butler for 11
Top tier drafts
現在大多數全明星首發都是來自這2屆的球員了，臥槽。
庫裡哈登德羅贊都是09屆的。
倫納德，歐文，巴特勒是11屆的。
這兩屆新秀質量都是頂級的。
[–]Spursslippy0101 45 指標 8小時前
It kind of shows how hard it is to predict success in the NBA. I remember the 2011 draft being regarded as one of the shallowest with the least amount of talent in a long time.
這證明很難預測NBA球員的成功。 我記得11屆曾經還被看作很長時間以來最水，天賦最不足的一屆。
[–]Trail Blazersmm825 35 指標 9小時前
A deep and loaded draft. Parsons, Morris twins, Reggie jackson, TT, JVal, Kemba, Vuc, Harris, Faried.
（11屆）有深度天賦的一屆選秀。 帕森斯， 莫裡斯雙胞胎，雷吉傑克遜，TT，瓦蘭尼丘納斯，肯巴，武切維奇，哈裡斯，法裡亞德。
[–]CavaliersSneakyJap 21 指標 7小時前
How you gonna leave out my boy Singler?
你怎麼能把我家辛格勒排除在外呢？
[–]Bucks BandwagonMacDerfus 29 指標 6小時前
Easily.
秒排除。
[–][LAL] D'Angelo Russelluntraiined 8 指標 7小時前
Lmao i remember when people were saying this draft was pretty bad with only 2 good players, now its really good with a mvp candidate. Its almost like you have to let players develop and mature instead of judging them at age 19.
笑尿了，我記得當時人們還說這屆新秀太爛了，只有2名出色的球員。 現在來看這屆真的非常強，有一名MVP候選人級別的球員。 你必須得讓球員們成長後再來看，而不是在他們19歲的時候就看到老了。
[–]RocketsHuman_On_Reddit 148 指標 11小時前
If I had to order them, I'd go:
1) Kawhi
2) Butler
3) Kyrie
4) Klay
5) IT
這五人我的排名：1，倫納的 2，巴特勒 3，歐文 4，克萊湯普森 5，小託馬斯
[–]CelticsIzikren 151 指標 9小時前
IT 80 point game incoming after this one lol
小託馬斯看到這個後會怒砍80分的，哈哈。
[–]RaptorsCorky_Ramirez 31 指標 8小時前
I don't think he was ranked so low because of his offensive shortcomings, Kawhi, Butler, and Klay all put in work on both ends.
我不認為小託馬斯是因為進攻端的劣勢才被排這麼低， 倫納德，巴特勒，克萊都可以在攻防兩端做出貢獻。
[–]CelticsIzikren 37 指標 8小時前
I agree with the rankings. It's just that IT doesn't ;)
我同意這個排名，但是小託馬斯不會同意
[–]BullsIma_Grab_Yo_Snatch 86 指標 10小時前
Klay is tough to judge because he's on such a great team. Is he a system player or is he that good? He looks great playing off the ball on the Warriors but who knows how he'd look if he was on any other team. No other teams would give him the looks he gets playing with Steph, Dray, and KD.
IT is one of the best scorers in the league, clutch when his team needs it, but that's about it. He can get other players going when he opens the court sometimes. But he's one of the worst defenders in the league and a liability any time he's on the court.
Kyrie is one of the flashiest players we've ever seen. He's a great 2nd option on the best team in the East but before Lebron he couldn't even make the playoffs so it's tough to judge him as well.
克萊很難判斷， 因為他處於一支宇宙隊。 他是一個體系球員呢，還是他真的有那麼強呢？ 他在勇士打無球看起來很厲害，但誰知道他如果在別的隊會是怎樣呢。 其他球隊沒法給他創造跟庫裡追夢阿杜在一起打球時的出手機會。
小託馬斯是聯盟最強的得分手之一，在球隊需要時也有很大心臟的表現，但也就是這樣了。有時候他拉開場上空間時也能給其他球員創造機會。但他是聯盟最差的防守者之一，在場上任何時候都是防守端的累贅。
歐文是我們見過有史以來球風最炫的球員之一。他在東部最強球隊裡是一名非常出色的2當家，但在勒布朗來之前，他連季後賽都進不去，所以也很難判斷他。
[–]Warriorshoffmanmclaunsky 57 指標 9小時前
I gotta disagree on Klay. He's not a system player. With his skills, you can plug him into any system and improve the team. Shooting and defense are universal.
I also think Klay gets mostly the same looks as the #1 guy. He'd be less efficient for sure, but he could average 27 a game easily. During last years Portland series with Steph out he averaged like 29 a game.
勇蜜：我必須不同意對克萊的說法。 他並不是一個體系球員。 憑他的技術，他你可以把他放進任何體系裡都能提高這支球隊。投射和防守在哪兒都吃得開。
我還認為就算作為大當家克萊也會得到大多數相同的出手機會，他肯定會變得更低效一些，但他也能很輕鬆場均砍個27分。在上一年對開拓者系列賽裡庫裡缺席，克萊場均拿了29分。
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