球員裁判溝通會只有一哥和丁威迪到場，美JRs：再不想聽球員抱怨了
(ESPN) During all-star break, players were invited to air out their grievances with officials. Only 2 guys showed up, Andre Igoudala and Spencer Dinwiddie.
全明星休賽期間，聯盟召開會議，邀請裁判和球員們出席，球員在會上可以抒發開賽以來對裁判的不滿。然而只有兩人到場——伊戈達拉和丁威迪。
[–][BKN] Jarrett AllenExpulsure 248 指標 9小時前
You fucking bet Spencer would be there, he’s sick of this shit lmao
你們特麼的用屁股也想得到丁威迪會出席啊，他早就對裁判不滿了哈哈哈哈。[譯註1]
[譯註1]在1月7日籃網85-87惜敗凱爾特人的比賽賽後，丁威迪接受採訪時用大段的言論表達了對裁判判罰的不滿。
[–][BOS] Kyrie Irvinggoofygoober2 1927 指標 9小時前
Dinwiddie let them hear it
丁威迪，讓裁判聽到你的呼聲！
[–]KnicksSmalllyBiggs 1416 指標 9小時前*
Just Spencer Dinwiddie screaming at the officials for a straight hour while Iggy crosses his python arms and nods in the background.
想像一下這場面：丁威迪一個人孤零零地對著裁判們吼了一個小時，而伊戈達拉卻在他背後叉著手不住地點頭。
[–]Celticssahsan10 305 指標 9小時前
This is totally what I expect
這就是我腦子裡的畫面。
[–]RaferBalston 78 指標 6小時前
Nah iggy'd be doin his "i didnt do it" face since it's been burned into refs heads
不不不，伊戈達拉還是會擺出一副「我啥事兒都沒幹啊」的表情，因為裁判們對這一幕實在太熟悉了。
[–]CelticsMadTrick978 709 指標 9小時前
I heard he kicked open the door and said "I may be Dinwiddie, but ya'll are a bunch of dim witties" and then the refs all vowed to change.
我仿佛聽到了丁威迪一腳把門踹開，大喊：「老子是丁威迪，你們這群大傻X！」[譯註2]，裁判們羞愧不已，紛紛發誓會做出改變。
[譯註2]dimwitties與Dinwiddie發音相近。
[–]BullsSDMGLife 150 指標 6小時前
Refs meeting with Dinwiddie was 「intense」 and 「at one point Ken Mauer was crying」 but everyone grew closer and a big lesson was learned
裁判們與丁威迪的會談十分激烈，肯-毛爾[譯註3]一度失聲痛哭，不過會後丁威迪與裁判之間的關係有所緩和，每一個人都得到了一個重要的教訓。[譯註4]
[譯註3]肯-毛爾是一名NBA裁判，其生涯「代表作」發生在2011年1月12日的比賽中。森林狼在10秒鐘內連續吃到了5次技術犯規，吉諾比利憑藉這幾次罰球幫助馬刺反超比分，最終馬刺以107比96戰勝了森林狼。
[譯註4]2016年休賽季，當時的自由球員杜蘭特與快船進行了長達四個小時的會談，快船老闆史蒂夫-鮑爾默也參與其中。據報導，會談場面十分「激烈」，鮑爾默在會談中「一度痛哭流涕」。這成為reddit當時一個熱門的梗。後來被證實為假新聞（自然啦）。
[–]CavaliersPedosoKJ 1163 指標 9小時前
Thats a shame, I thought there would be tons of players there.
可惜了，我還以為會有一堆球員到場呢。
[–]RzaNotNice 767 指標 9小時前
This is their vacation time, who wants to deal with this bullshit then?
全明星期間球員們休假都來不及，誰會無聊到浪費時間出席這種狗屁場合？
[–]Wizardskubideh_kaczynski 398 指標 9小時前
when else would they have it besides players』 vacation time? cut training camp short and schedule something then?
那除了球員的假期，還有什麼時候適合召開這樣的會議呢？縮短訓練營時間來籌備嗎？
[–][LAL] Jose Calderonvictor396 211 指標 8小時前
Some people make plans with their families which they barely see during the year around this weekend; not only with their wife and children but parents and brothers who may have a bit more trouble readjusting to an nba player schedule too. Set the date in the off season when they can work around it or plan it more in advance and more people may show up.
全明星周末這幾天，因為平時很難見得到家人，所以許多球員打算和家人一起度過，不單是陪自己的妻兒，還有父母和兄弟。對這些賽程已經規劃好了的NBA球員來說，要重新擠時間陪伴家人是一件比較困難的事。聯盟要麼把這種會議安排在休賽期，讓球員有規劃的餘地，要麼提前告知球員有安排這樣的會議。這樣才會有更多的球員出席。
[–]Wizardskubideh_kaczynski 329 指標 8小時前
nah i’m not buying any excuses. this was in LOS ANGELES during ALL STAR WEEKEND. plenty of players were around, with and without official business. you can take your nose out of a D-List actress’s butthole for 45 minutes to talk shop
我可不這麼覺得。這可是在洛杉磯舉行的全明星周末啊。眾多球員雲集在此，有人帶著公事要辦，有人一身輕鬆。你為什麼就不能從某個十八線小演員身上下來休息45分鐘，穿上衣服參加一下聯盟舉行的會議？
[–][LAL] Jose Calderonvictor396 145 指標 8小時前
Medium to Star level players are most likely booked for the entire weekend (months in advance they have contracts signed to show up in events) or in vacation (was it Deandre a couple of years ago the one who said that he almost declined the all star nod because he had already made plans with his family before even knowing if he would be given the nod or not?) and low level are more likely on vacation or don't consider they have enough of a voice.
在全明星周末期間，中等到明星級別的球員要麼檔期幾乎排滿（提前數月已經籤好合約要出席若干活動），要麼安心休假（有個球員幾年前被選為全明星，但是差點推掉了，原因是他沒想到自己能當選全明星，已經提前和家人規劃好了假期的活動。這人是小喬丹還是誰來著？）；而咖位不高的球員更可能選擇休假，況且他們的聲音分量不夠，很難產生影響力。
I'm just saying that looking at this from another perspective and playing devil's advocate it's a classic anti union move. My mother used to work for one and depending on the situation you try to put a reunion date when you know people are most likely to make a no show so you can blame them for not caring enough to appear.
我只是站在不同的角度看這個問題。在我看來這是典型的聯盟制約球員工會的一項舉措。我媽工作時就曾經幹過這種事：故意挑一個大家明顯不會出席的日子安排一個聚會，這樣你就可以指責他們這種不重視組織的行為（以求佔據某種優勢）。
[–][LAC] Quentin RichardsonVballa101 63 指標 6小時前
If players want to complain publicly about how the communication between players and refs is terrible and that there needs to be a change, an offer for them to meet with the refs to discuss that exact issue really shouldn't need to be mandatory to get them to show up.
如果球員想要在公開場合控訴，說他們與裁判之間的溝通情況非常糟糕，抱怨聯盟必須要做出一些改變，那聯盟召開一個討論此事的會議還需要強制他們參加嗎？不是應該爭破頭去嗎?
[–][PHI] Tony WrotenDariosDentist 103 指標 9小時前
It's the reason why election days should be a holiday. Why do we need a day to remember past presidents when we don't have a day to elect our next president?
這也是選舉日應該放假的原因啊。為了讓我們紀念往屆的總統可以放一天假，到了選新任總統的時候為什麼不給我們一天的時間來考慮？
[–]Cavaliersgregosaurusrex 50 指標 7小時前
You know why.
原因你懂的。
[–][HOU] Matt MaloneyTotallyLegit_User 130 指標 6小時前
because they don't want you to vote
因為他們不指望你去投票啊。
[–][LAL] Kobe BryantBagelBites619 436 指標 9小時前
Can't watch right now. Is he giving the players shit for not showing up, but still complaining? Sounds fair to me, if so.
沒看原視頻，蕭華是在指桑罵槐說那些球員只會抱怨但卻沒出席會議嗎？要真是這樣，我覺得沒啥毛病。
[–]Pistonsjohnazoidberg- 192 指標 6小時前
Seriously, you had a chance to actually make some progress and criticize the officiating without the fines - show up or shut up
說真的，現在你有機會前進一步，批評某些裁判的判罰，而且還不會遭到罰款——你要麼就出席會議痛快發洩，要麼以後就閉嘴。
[–]SupersonicsPhudiMar 80 指標 6小時前
Yea at the very least the President of the Player's Union should have been there.
沒錯，這樣的會議，至少球員工會主席應該出席吧。
[–]Pistonsjohnazoidberg- 39 指標 6小時前
Plot twist: One of the 2 players whomst attended is a VP of the players association
情節發生轉折：出席的兩位球員中，就有一位是球員工會副主席（伊戈達拉）。
[–]SpursNeutral_Meat 58 指標 6小時前
Plot twister: Half the NBA is a VP of the players association
情節再次發生轉折：NBA球員裡有一半都是球員工會副主席，TX。[譯註5]
[譯註5]吐槽NBA球員工會副主席太多。
[–][NYK] Larry Hughesleesanity7 634 指標 9小時前
Can’t just complain when you can’t even take 30 minutes out of your time to discuss how the other side sees it.
Pretty disappointing to hear this. On the other hand, I love Dinwiddie even more.
聯盟這麼多球員，真的都抽不出哪怕30分鐘去和裁判一方談談，聽聽人家的看法？真的無力吐槽。
聽到這條消息真的很失望。不過我對丁威迪是越來越喜歡了。
[–]LakersJust_Chiming_In_Here 164 指標 9小時前
Was the meeting in LA? Cause if so, apart from the all stars themselves - a lot of the players live in LA. They were given a forum and didn’t take advantage of it at all
這次會議地點在洛杉磯嗎？要是在的話，除了入選全明星賽的球員之外，還有很多住在洛杉磯的球員啊。聯盟已經為球員和裁判提供了一個溝通的場所，但球員們完全沒有好好利用。
[–][NYK] Larry Hughesleesanity7 237 指標 9小時前
More disappointed at the all-stars, because these guys are the ones who complain the most.
我更多地是對全明星球員們感到失望，因為抱怨裁判的基本上是他們啊。
[–][GSW] Klay Thompson250gpfan 42 指標 8小時前
Some of them are. IT would have been good to deignate a player from each team to show and voice the concerns but they didn't even do that. That said I think going forward the refs will care more about Dinwiddie and Iggy just because of that effort to show and trying to smooth things out and remove miscommunication.
一些而已，也不能說基本上是他們在抱怨裁判。要是當初聯盟從每個球隊選派了代表來參加這次會議來進行發聲的話就好了，但是甚至連每個球隊出一個人都做不到。
不過，我覺得，從此以後裁判們會對丁威迪和伊戈達拉更照顧一些，因為他們倆抽時間出席了會議，有在努力去緩和球員和裁判的關係，並消除彼此之間的一些誤解。
[–]SpursJacksFilmsJacksFilms 66 指標 9小時前
Respect to Iggy and Spencer. At least they went and talked to the refs
向伊戈達拉和丁威迪表示敬意。至少他倆出席了會議，與裁判們進行了溝通。
[–]Spursraymondl942 121 指標 8小時前
Ok I don't wanna be hearing all the complaining to the refs if you can't even be bothered to show up to this meeting
好啊，既然你們連與裁判溝通的會議都不願意出席，那我以後也不想再聽見你們抱怨裁判的言論了。
[–]CelticsPepeSylvia11 36 指標 8小時前
Actually, ironically, them not showing up to the meeting is a sly way for them to continue complaining to the refs. Maybe they didn't want to compromise because they liked bitching too much, and found that it generally worked.
其實，球員們拒絕出席會議本身也是一種暗中表達對裁判不滿的方式。也許球員們不願意妥協是因為他們喜歡抱怨這抱怨那，還覺得這樣挺管用，TX。
Finding a middle ground and talking it out would make their complaining on the court in the second half of the season more noticeable. To the refs that is.
如果這幫球員能參加會議，與裁判達成一定共識，達成有效溝通的話，那他們下半個賽季（全明星後）再抱怨的話，裁判也會格外注意，做出更加謹慎的判罰。
[–]Wizardskubideh_kaczynski 789 指標 9小時前
the refs are bad but if the players are gonna do all of this bitching and moaning and then not take the opportunity to hash things out face to face.... that’s pretty pathetic
裁判有時候確實很爛，但球員們抱怨裁判的時候一個頂倆，現在有了面對面溝通解決問題的機會，卻不願意把握…真是悲哀啊。
[–]sheeshman 27 指標 7小時前
How much notice were they given? Did they make plans with the nbapa? Was this NBA sanctioned? Would any changes come from this meeting?
這次會議有提前通知嗎？提前了多少天通知？聯盟召開會議前和球員工會打了招呼嗎？這次會議是聯盟批准的嗎？會開完之後，裁判會做出什麼改變嗎？
We don't know the answers to these questions but they are important, the biggest being, would the refs be able to make any changes after this meeting. If not, make a better plan in the off season. Let the players association meet together and have it be a structured conversation.
我們都不得而知，但這些問題很重要，最重要的是：開完會之後，裁判們的吹罰會不會有任何的改進？要是沒有，這個休賽期得想一個更好的方案來解決這個問題。讓球員工會也一起參與會議吧，這樣的交流對話才有建設性啊。
[–]NBAMintastic 58 指標 6小時前
Even we've known about this meeting months in advance with posts here. I think most players just don't care enough about it compared to getting their much needed vacation.
就連咱話題區的JR們都幾個月前就知道要開這個會了啊（通過各種帖子中轉載的新聞），我還是覺得大部分球員都更看重他們的假期，沒有那麼在意這個判罰問題。
[–]CavaliersB*河蟹*inRageValley 227 指標 9小時前
Kinda sad the leaders of the Players union didn't show up. How are the refs supposed to take their grievances seriously ?
球員工會的領導層沒有出席，這挺不好啊。那裁判還有什麼理由認真對待他們的抱怨呢？
[–]glumbum2 118 指標 8小時前
There's at least 15-20 players who really should have been there, both from a leadership perspective within the league (guys like lebron and chris paul) and people who complain about shit all the time (blake griffin and james "adolf" harden)
應該出席會議的球員至少有15-20名，包括球員中的領袖級人物（比如詹姆斯和保羅）和經常抱怨裁判的球員（比如格裡芬和詹姆斯-「希特勒」-哈登）。[譯註6]
[譯註6]希特勒是哈登在reddit的外號之一。起源於前幾年哈登在reddit被黑的太慘，後來物極必反，大家就開玩笑說看哈登被黑的慘狀還以為他是窮兇極惡的希特勒呢。
[–]76ersBloodBath718 142 指標 7小時前
Nah I think Hardens cool with the refs lol
不不不，我覺得哈登和裁判的關係挺好的哈哈哈哈。
[–]Raptorsone-eleven 166 指標 6小時前
Harden showing up to the meeting like
哈登出席會議時估計會是這模樣。