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reddit網站連結:https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/gaxo54/hong_kong_teachers_history_lesson_on_first_opium/

Teacher from Ho Lap Primary School told pupils first conflict in 1840 started because Britain 『wanted to attack China in an attempt to ban smoking』

嗇色園可立小學的一名教師告訴小學生,1840年的第一次鴉片戰爭是因為「英國想要試圖阻止中國人抽大煙,才派兵攻打中國」。

Hong Kong teacher’s history lesson on first opium war 『obviously untrue and unacceptable』, says Education Bureau

香港教育局稱,這名教師對第一次鴉片戰爭的歷史課是「明顯不真實和不可接受的」。

School principal apologises and government says it will investigate if teacher is guilty of professional misconduct

該校校長道歉,政府稱將對這名教師是否違反職業操守發起調查。

reddit網友評論翻譯:

WL6890 56 points

They need to fire these kinds of idiots. Can’t even call them teachers when they’re actively 「teaching」 lies

他們需要解僱這種白痴。如果有人主動的「傳授」謊言,那他就根本不配被稱作教師。

General_Guisan 17 points

Not just fire. Put them in prison, have them doing work till their crimes are worked away. And then sent him to whatever sh**hole they were coming from. Most probably US or Australia.

不僅是解僱,還要把他們關進監獄,讓他們做工作,直到他們洗清罪行。然後把他們趕回去,無論他們來自哪個糞坑,最有可能是美國或者澳大利亞。

wcet 5 points

They must be educated and taught morality. only then will they recant their racist beliefs

他們必須接受文化和道德教育。只有那樣他們才會放棄種族主義信仰。

hisilicon8 21 points

They need to extradite these sorts of idiots to the mainland for imprisonment and reeducation. Release pending only successful de-brainwashing.

他們需要把這種白痴引渡到大陸,進行監禁和再教育。只有成功的完成反洗nao才能釋放。

RhinoWithaGun 21 points

I think they need all teaching & educational certifications revoked and invalidated permanently. They should not be allowed a job in any school or educational institution, not even a library anywhere in China.

我認為他們所有的教學和教育證書都應該被撤銷並且永久性失效。不應該允許他們在中國任何學校或者教育機構從業,甚至是任何地方的圖書館。

hisilicon8 12 points

that sounds like some sweet icing on top of the cake of reeducation

這像是再教育蛋糕上的糖衣。

MechAITheFuture 23 points

The teacher was probably a foreigner. If not for their manipulation, many of the HK youths wouldn''t have been scammed into participating in the HK riots which involved drugs and rape.

那個老師可能是個外國人。如果不是他們的操縱,許多香港青年就不會被騙去參加涉及毒 品和強 奸的香 港暴 亂。

hisilicon8 33 points

More likely he was educated by NED and its assets (Joshua, Nathan, etc.)

更有可能是NED及其資產教育出來的。

thepensiveiguana 25 points *

That is blatantly false, it''s just sad. Literally the definition if orwellian propaganda

這是赤裸裸的錯誤,真是可悲。真正定義了奧威爾式的政…治宣傳。

SanewoodChinese 18 points

Doesn''t surprising me. In the history musuem in hk, you will not find anything about the opium war. Just the history of our ancesters traditions, clans and how they lived before the brits came.

我並不驚訝。在香港的歷史博物館,我們找不到任何關於鴉片戰爭的東西。只有我們祖先傳統的歷史、宗族,以及他們在英國人到來之前的生活方式。

BitterMelonX 32 points

There''s so much self-loathing and Western worship in HK that they have to change history to make China look like the bad guys and the British the heroes.

香港有太多人自我厭惡並且崇拜西方,以至於他們不得不篡改歷史,讓中國看起來像壞人,而英國人是英雄。

USA_DeMockraNaZi 15 points

Really pathetic self-hating bananas. Stunning how many there are in HK. These morons have never lived as a visible minority in a white country and ACTUALLY FACED racism everyday. IF they did they wouldn''t be mouthing off such revisionist propaganda for whitey.

那些自我憎惡的香蕉人真可悲。香港有這麼多這種人,真是讓人震驚。這些白痴從來沒有在白人國家生活過,實際上他們在那裡是明顯的少數群體,每天都要面對種族主義。如果他們真的在那裡生活過,他們就不會為白人做這種修正主義的宣傳。

Spacearrowpark 3 points

I''m convinced this lost generation of HKers will irreversibly fuck over the city. When they''re finally absorbed into the greater bay region I''m not sure I want to know what will have become of HK at that point

我相信這一代迷惘的香港人將不可逆轉地把這座城市搞得一團糟。當他們最終被納入大灣區時,那時香港會變成什麼樣子,我覺得我不會想要知道。

pinkblossum 11 points

No wonder HK students are completely brainwashed and self-hating. Shame on that "teacher". Sad thing is that person probably isn''t the only one who teaches fake history.

難怪香港學生被xi腦和自我憎恨的這麼徹底。真為那個「老師」感到羞恥。可悲的是,這個人可能不是唯一一個教授假歷史的人。

RhinoWithaGun 25 points

This Banana white washed teacher needs a good smack from a crowbar to the head. Of all the reasons the British attacked and invaded China the nicest reasons I heard was to "force open Chinese trading ports to the world" and get compensation for destruction of British Opium.

But this degenerate rotten Banana? Absolutely vile. The British had NO good moral reasons or virtue signaling pretext.

需要用撬棒在這個被白人洗腦的香蕉人老師頭上狠狠來一下。關於英國人攻打並侵略中國,我聽說過的最美麗的原因是「強迫中國人向全世界開放貿易港口」,並且為英國損失的鴉片做出補償。

但是這個墮落的爛香蕉人呢?簡直邪惡透頂。英國人沒有任何善意的道德理由或者與美德相關的藉口。

GaoranEuropean 12 points

These blackshirt fascist have one thing correct, their hearts are as black amd corrupted as their shitty flag they like to brandish so much.

這些黑衫法西斯有一件事沒有弄錯,他們的心就像他們喜歡揮舞的破爛旗幟一樣,都是黑的,爛掉了。

RhinoWithaGun 11 points

No doubts from me or the offending teacher either:

「The teacher in charge also understands the information which was presented to pupils was not correct, which had brought disturbance to parents and students,」 he said. 「The school would hope to offer its most sincere apology [on the matter].」

The school did not say if it would take any action against the teacher.

我跟這位做壞事的老師都不懷疑:

「負責的老師也知道學生們收到的信息是不正確的,這給家長和學生帶來了困擾,」他說,「學校希望(就此事)做出最真誠的道歉。」

但是這個學校沒有說它是否會對這名老師採取任何行動。

QidhrEuropean 23 points

Can''t believe there are still people defending British colonialism

不敢相信,竟然還有人在為英國的殖民主義說話。

USA_DeMockraNaZi 13 points

believe there are still people defending British colonialism

believe there are still people traitors defending British colonialism

相信依然有人在捍衛英國的殖民主義

相信依然有叛徒在捍衛英國的殖民主義

KaiserreichHypebeast 7 points

「wE inVaDeD tHeM tO mAkE tHeM sToP smOkiNg」

By this stupid logic, South America should be nuked to 「remove all the coke」.

This guy’s logic... smh

「我們侵略他們是為了阻止他們抽鴉片。」

以這種邏輯來說,南美就應該吃核彈,以便「消滅所有古柯鹼」。

這傢伙的邏輯……嘆息。

xingfenzhen 3 points

Actually, no. By this logic, United States needs to be nuked by Colombia to remove all the coke.

實際上並不是,以這種邏輯,哥倫比亞應該用核彈轟炸美國,這樣才能「消滅所有古柯鹼」。

Spacearrowpark 6 points

Many more examples of HK "educators" brainwashing their youth. Sad sad

香港「教育者」給他們的孩子xi腦的例子又多了一些。可悲。

killingzooChinese 3 points

Throw the guy in a mental ward

把這傢伙丟進精神病院吧。

The_Dynasty_WarriorChinese 6 points

This is so fucked up

太糟糕了。

counter-colonist 3 points

where do these ridiculous ideas come from?

這些荒謬的想法是哪來的?

MobsterRedditor 3 points

I just feel sad for HongKong. It’s exactly what 認賊作父 depicts. These people have no history nor future.

我為香港感到悲哀,完全闡述了「認賊作父」的含義。沒有歷史的人沒有未來。

Obscurian 3 points

As an actual teacher who''s worked in China AND as a History teacher (not in China) I am beyond sickened.

作為一個在中國工作過的真正的老師,以及一名歷史老師(不是在中國),我噁心的不行。

xingfenzhen 3 points

Hardly surprising.

一點不奇怪。

wutti 2 points

Not sure if this "teacher" should be teaching anymore.

Even a British wouldn''t call it this way. What a farce.

不確定這名「教師」是否應該繼續執教。

即使英國人都不會這麼說,真是胡鬧。

btahjusshi 2 points

Repeating the lie that Britain started a war because a lot of Chinese was addicted to opium does not make it true.

However not stripping this teacher of their license is going to embolden other teachers to change history to their liking.

「因為很多中國人鴉片上癮,英國才發起了一場戰爭」,重複這個謊言並不能讓它成真。

然而,如果不剝奪這名教師的資格,將會鼓勵其他教師按照自己的喜好篡改歷史。

whoisliuxiaobo -5 points

The problem in Hong Kong is that there are too many western trash there. Get rid of these foreign trash and these brainwashed idiots, the problems in Hk would be solved.

香港的問題是那裡有太多西方垃圾。把那些外國垃圾和那些被洗腦的蠢貨都趕走,香港的問題就會得到解決。

UnableSwing 1 point

you want actual brainwashing than here it is. this ''teacher'' should be fired

什麼是真正的洗腦,這就是。應該炒掉這個「教師」。

HKese 2 points

Teachers are brain dead and we are no future in HK.

我們香港的教師們腦子都壞掉了,我們沒有未來。

USA_DeMockraNaZi 4 points

Just mind-numbing, how does this even happen?!

真是無法想像,竟然會發生這種事情?!

Igennem 4 points

They''ve been feeding propaganda to children for decades and we''re only now realizing it.

幾十年來,他們一直在向孩子們灌輸政治宣傳,而我們現在才意識到這一點。

cheezburgapocalypse 1 point

Mr Lin''s rolling in his grave.

林(則徐)先生的棺材板壓不住了。

FeiGweilo 5 points

What the fuck, I think the teacher must have been smoking opium when they wrote this shit.

什麼鬼,我想這個老師寫這些破爛課件的時候一定是抽了鴉片。

asomet 5 points

Are you serious. My grandfather''s father was am opium addict because of the British

你是認真的嗎?就因為英國人,我祖父的父親變成了一個大菸鬼。

anthonykoo

He obviously would have failed his history lesson. If he did not pass his history lesson, then he was not qualified to teach history lessons. So if he is a history teacher, which apparently he is, then he should be fired. If he is not, then why he gives lessons on wrong history? The school should be investigated. Why was he hired? Why was he given to teach history? There is gross negligence on the part of the school as well.

I am not even worried what color he is, except that he is a failure.

他的歷史課顯然不及格。如果他沒有通過歷史課,那麼他就沒有資格教歷史課。因此,如果他是一名歷史教師(顯然他是),那麼他應該被解僱。如果他不是,那為什麼他可以去教錯誤的歷史?應該對這所學校發起調查。為什麼會聘用他?為什麼會派他去教歷史?學校方面也有重大疏忽。

我甚至不擔心他是什麼膚色,只擔心他是個失敗者。

canoerider

I am beginning to understand why so many Hong Kongers have this hate for Mainlanders. In this case its because of rotten educators distorting history to young children.

我開始明白,為什麼這麼多香港人對大陸人懷有如此的仇恨了。在這件事裡,是因為黑心的教育者給孩子們傳播扭曲的歷史。

LimYA

This teacher must have been living in a parallel Universe. He/she better not teach in the real world.

這位老師一定生活在一個平行的宇宙中。他/她最好不要在現實世界裡教書。

Mun Hon

Teacher should be fired and professional qualification removed

這名教師應被解僱,並取消職業資格。

joeljoel

Treasonous dastard should be stripped of his teacher''s license. HK''s education system has already endured twenty-three years of these twisted and sinister brainwashing of our students. Time to clear the deck !

這個叛國的混帳應該被吊銷教師執照。香港的教育體系已經經歷了23年的對我們學生的扭曲和邪惡的洗腦。是時候清理垃圾了!

Fiaz Hitachi

what if this whole scene was planted by China...and the teacher himself was part of the drama to bring love to China... and hate to pro democracy... what if... just what if..

it is very cheap way to stir stuff and get big returns..

假設整件事是中國設計的……這名教師本身就是這場鬧劇的一部分,目的是讓人們愛中國……並且不去支持民主……假設……只是假設……

這樣做可以十分輕易的攪渾水,獲得大回報……

NYCCitizen

@Fiaz Hitachi , what if the whole atomic bombing in Japan was an inside of job of a Japanese coup ... what if ... just what if it is a very cheap way to sell out Japanese and it royalty. and get big control of the country after surrender ..

@Fiaz Hitachi假設日本發生的核爆完全是日本政變者搞的內幕交易……假設……只是假設,這樣可以十分輕易的出賣日本及其皇室,並且在投降後強力的控制日本……

Aaron Xie

@Fiaz Hitachi No wonder the Japanese still thinking they are saving the world instead of invading in the role of WWII as today.

@Fiaz Hitachi怪不得即使到了今天,日本人依然認為他們在二戰中的角色是拯救世界,而不是侵略者。

anthonykoo

@Fiaz Hitachi love the way you look at things, like from la la land

@Fiaz Hitachi我喜歡你看待事情的方式,就像是幻想世界來的一樣。

lbseah

How can students be left with these kinds of Teachers. Dismissal.

怎麼會讓這種老師去教學生,解僱。

gsitou11

Education Department ! What are going to do ? Any actions ? Well ..

教育部門!做點什麼?有什麼措施嗎?哎……

gsitou11

Primary school level (unprofessional) teacher ! We don''t have a future for our generations to come ... Very sad!

小學水平(非職業)教師!我們的下一代沒有未來了……真是可悲

L Tang

That''s how brainwashing is done. They do it in undetectable ways. This guy and maybe

hundreds of others like him are left alone in their classes teaching God knows what to

these kids. No wonder the latest generation have such a rose tinted nostalgia about

British rule. It was only because this guy was caught on video has it come to light but who knows what else he has been

telling them.

xi腦就是這麼進行的。他們是悄悄做的。這傢伙,或許還有成百上千像他一樣的人,都在班級上對學生們教一些莫名其妙的東西。怪不得新一代香港人對英國人的統治有那種玫瑰色的懷念感。這件事不過是因為這傢伙被拍到視頻曝光,誰知道他還教了孩子們別的什麼東西。

sensiblehk

I know many secondary students were indoctrinated with Anti China propaganda and how to protests at school. My friend told me his son asked to leave HK when he was 14 as the school in Kowloon was teaching him how to protest. He is now 20.

我知道很多學生在學校裡被灌輸了反華的政治宣傳,以及如何抗議。我的朋友告訴我,他曾要求他的兒子在14歲時離開香港,因為九龍的學校裡一直在教他如何抗議。現在他已經20歲了。

dsum2828

The quality of HK teachers are not what it was before. They are more radical and politicized.

The old way of respecting teachers in school are slowly eroding.

香港教師的素質不如以前。更加的激進和政治化。

學校裡尊師重教的傳統風氣正在慢慢消失。

stoneaegis21

Hong Kong Museum of History has a permanent exhibition involving the two Opium wars. I don''t see how this teacher got it wrong.

And this exhibition is free entry; I do recommend a visit when you have time.

香港歷史博物館有一場關於兩次鴉片戰爭的永久性展覽。我不明白這位老師怎麼會搞錯了。

這個展覽是免費的;我建議大家有空去看看。

ablewang

MI6 infiltrated HK education system and teaching staffs.

軍情六處滲透了香港的教育系統和教師隊伍。

Steven Lee18

the irony is for more than a century the HK schools have taught a different history lessons to the HKers cultivating fears and mistrust of the mainlanders besides glorying the British. nowadays HKers are become losers by over reacting and trying all sorts of distractions and finding scapegoats instead of trying to fix their economy and becoming more competitive and improving themselves and seeing themselves as Chinese and not as Anglo-saxon Asians!

諷刺的是,一個多世紀以來,香港的學校一直向香港人傳授一種不一樣的歷史,除了讚頌英國人,極速培養對大陸人的恐懼和不信任。現在香港人變成了失敗者,他們反應過度,用各種方法分心旁騖,尋找替罪羊,而不是努力搞好自己的經濟,變得更有競爭力,改善自己,他們應該將自己視為中國人,而不是盎格魯薩克遜的亞洲人!

jessica young

@Steven Lee18 It is truly sad to see those protesters waving American flags . They truly believed U.S is going to save them when push comes to shove.

看到那些抗議者揮舞著美國國旗,真是可悲。他們真的相信,一旦面臨最後關頭,美國會來拯救他們。

Clearestmind

As I have previously mentioned, Beijing should change HK''s entire education system from top to bottom. Now HK is intentionally teaching fake news.

正如我以前說過的,北京應該從上到下徹底改變香港的教育制度。現在香港正在故意教授假新聞。

Clearestmind

@Clearestmind ...or revisionism.

……或者是修正主義。

kcwingood 18 points

Even though I was born in HK and educated there until the fourth grade in the seventies, I find the current state of HK education so strange and downright looney tunes. Back then, there was just no political indoctrination of any kind that I could recall. There was some religious indoctrination since it was a Xtain school, but it was still a typical Chinese school in all the other ways including corporal punishment for the naughty! While the instruction was in Cantonese, there was no indoctrination of a "Hong Konger" identity separate from being Chinese, and we were taught to write with standard written Chinese grammar and never in the Cantonese dialect. I suppose at some point the education system was "localized" and the hanjians took the opportunity to divide HK people from the mainland by elevating Cantonese to a "separate language" and co-opting colonial history as official HK history to supplant the real Chinese history of HK which is quite separate and antagonistic to foreign colonial occupation. Of course, all this last-ditch effort will fail since it is just a "virtual wall" built up by hanjian brainwashing. With the west falling apart in front of their eyes, these hanjians'' last hope at resurrecting a dead "colony" for their foreign masters is quite doomed as well.

雖然我70年代出生在香港,並在那裡接受教育直到四年級,我也發現現在的香港教育是如此的奇怪,充滿了徹頭徹尾的胡扯。在我的記憶中,我當時的教育沒有任何形式的政^治方面的灌輸。因為我上的是一所宗教學校,所以有一些宗教方面的灌輸,但它在所有其他形式方面,依然是一所典型的中國學校,包括對淘氣孩子的體罰!儘管教學用的是廣東話,但是沒有任何把「香港人」與中國人身份區別開來的灌輸,而且老師用標準的漢語書寫體語法教導我們,從來不用廣東方言。我覺得在某一刻教育制度被「本地化」了,漢奸們抓住機會,把廣東話抬高為一種「獨立語言」,並且吸收殖民歷史作為香港的官方歷史,以取代香港真正的中國歷史——它與外國殖民佔領其實是相當隔離和對立的,以此來分化香港人和大陸人。當然,這些做法最終都會失敗,因為它只是漢奸們通過洗腦所建造的「虛擬藩籬」。隨著這些漢奸們眼睜睜看著西方世界分崩離析,他們妄圖復活那個已經死掉的「殖民地」的最後希望也註定要破滅。

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