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House Democrats are moving forward with a plan to impeach President Trump for a second time. The president has just nine days left in office, and Democrats say, this week, they plan to file an impeachment resolution. This follows Trump's incitement of his supporters last Wednesday, hundreds of whom descended on the U.S. Capitol. The violent scene left five people dead, including a Capitol Police officer. And NPR congressional correspondent Kelsey Snell is here with us this morning with the latest. Hey, Kelsey.
KELSEY SNELL, BYLINE: Good morning.
MOSLEY: How will this impeachment proceeding work?
SNELL: Well, it will start today when Democrats plan to bring up a resolution that would call on Vice President Mike Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment. Democrats will try to pass that unanimously, but Republicans could and probably will block it with just one objection. After that, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is basically giving Pence 24 hours, a kind of ultimatum, to decide if he's going to invoke the 25th Amendment. If he doesn't, she plans to bring the process, you know, to a hold — bring together the process to hold a vote on impeachment, which could happen as early as Wednesday. Now, on the question of impeachment, it's currently just one article referring to incitement to insurrection. It's based on Trump's address to the crowd before the riots began and his attempts to overturn the election in 2020. More than 200 Democrats have signed on, and I'm told that they expect some Republicans will support it, too. You know, Democrats are pretty unified in saying what happened at the Capitol cannot be swept under the rug. They say Trump can't be allowed to simply leave office without any consequences. And they want to make sure that the Senate has the opportunity to vote to convict so that it can bar Trump from holding future federal office.
MOSLEY: OK, Kelsey, this actually brings me to the question of Republicans. We heard a few of them say over the last few days they want Trump out of office. How widespread is that feeling within the GOP?
SNELL: You know, some of that is kind of hard to gauge because most of them have been quiet. We know that Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski was the first to say that Trump should resign, but she's been joined by retiring Senator Pat Toomey. He was asked about this yesterday on CNN.
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PAT TOOMEY: I think at this point, with just a few days left, it's the best path forward.
SNELL: Now, there are a few others that agree, but some others, like Missouri Senator Roy Blunt, who is part of Republican leadership, says he basically wants Trump to be quiet for 10 days and just leave. You know, House Republican leaders have also mostly been silent, except for Liz Cheney, who has often broken with the rest of House Republican leadership when it comes to Trump.
MOSLEY: OK. This process the House wants to do is really quick, but there's still the Senate.
SNELL: Right. And, you know, that is really the wild card here because Republicans will control the Senate until the Georgia elections are certified and then the Senate has to meet and do some required organizing work. So that means that Mitch McConnell would control the timing. And the Senate is out of session. So what would need to happen is they would have to bring them back into session. They would start a trial basically around Inauguration Day. Once an impeachment trial is triggered in the Senate, it stops everything else from happening. It forces senators to come to the Senate floor, sit down six days a week until the trial concludes, and that could take weeks. House Minority Whip Jim Clyburn floated a proposal that he says could solve it. Here he is yesterday on CNN.
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JIM CLYBURN: Let's give President-elect Biden the 100 days he needs to get his agenda off and running. And maybe we'll send the articles sometimes after that.
SNELL: A hundred days is a really long time. And that could be well after Trump leaves office. And, you know, Democrats want to proceed for all the reasons I've mentioned before. But this creates a really complicating political moment for Biden as he tries to, you know, move forward and move the country ahead.
MOSLEY: And this is all happening — I have 30 seconds with you — as we prepare for Joe Biden's inauguration. What are the concerns about safety?
SNELL: Yeah, there are still concerns. The Capitol is a little bit like a fortress right now with fences and National Guard troops. And there's a process of a review right now. But there are serious concerns about whether or not the Capitol will be fully safe for the Biden administration. We're told that there are really efforts right now trying to beef up security and take every precaution possible.
MOSLEY: NPR congressional correspondent Kelsey Snell, thank you.
SNELL: Thanks for having me.
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眾議院民主黨人正在推進第二次彈劾總統川普的計劃。總統的任期僅剩九天,民主黨人表示,他們計劃本周提交彈劾決議。此前,川普在上周三煽動其支持者,致數百名支持者聚集美國國會大廈。隨後爆發的暴力事件造成5人死亡,其中包括一名國會警察。NPR新聞駐國會記者凱爾西·斯內爾今天早上將帶來詳細報導。你好,凱爾西。
凱爾西·斯內爾連線:早上好。
莫斯利:彈劾程序將如何運作?
斯內爾:彈劾程序將於今天啟動,民主黨計劃提交一項決議,要求副總統邁克·彭斯援引憲法第25條修正案。民主黨人將試圖一致通過這項決議,但共和黨人可能而且很可能通過反對來阻止這項決議。之後,眾議院議長南希·佩洛西會給彭斯24小時時間,這基本上相當於最後通牒,讓他決定是否援引第25條修正案。如果彭斯拒絕,她計劃將進程集中起來,就彈劾案進行投票,這最早可能在周三發生。目前只有一項彈劾條款提到煽動暴動。這是基於川普在騷亂開始前對民眾的講話以及他推翻2020年大選的企圖。超過200名民主黨人已經籤署了彈劾條款,我了解到他們預計一些共和黨人也會支持。民主黨人一致表示,在國會發生的事情不能被掩蓋。他們表示,不能允許川普在沒有任何後果的情況下輕鬆離任。而且他們希望確保參議院有機會就定罪進行投票,這樣才能阻止川普在未來擔任聯邦職務。
莫斯利:凱爾西,這讓我想到了共和黨人的問題。我們聽到其中一些人過去幾天曾表示,他們希望川普下臺。這種感覺在共和黨內部有多普遍?
斯奈爾:有些很難衡量,因為他們中的大多數人都保持沉默。我們了解到,阿拉斯加州參議員麗莎·穆爾科夫斯基是第一個表態稱川普應該辭職的人,即將退休的參議員帕特·圖米也持同樣看法。他昨天接受CNN採訪時被問及此事。
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帕特·圖米:現在離總統任期結束只剩幾天時間,我認為這是最佳的前進之路。
斯內爾:有一些人同意這種說法,但隸屬於共和黨領導層的密蘇裡州參議員羅伊·布朗特等人表示,他們希望川普安靜10天,就這樣離任。眾議院共和黨領袖大多也都保持沉默,但利茲·切尼除外,在涉及川普時,他經常與眾議院共和黨其他領袖產生分歧。
莫斯利:好。眾議院想進行的過程進展很快,但這還要經過參議院。
斯內爾:對。這確實是未知數,因為在喬治亞州的選舉結果得到認證後,共和黨人將控制參議院,之後參議院要舉行會議,並開展一些必要的組織工作。這意味著米奇·麥康奈爾會控制時間。參議院已經休會。因此,他們需要召集參議院開會。他們會在總統就職日前後開始審判。一旦彈劾案在參議院啟動,其他事情就會停止。這會強制參議員來到參議院,每周工作6天,直到審判結束,而這可能需要數周時間。眾議院少數黨黨鞭吉姆·克萊伯恩提出了一項提案,他稱該提案可以解決這個問題。以下是他昨天接受CNN採訪時所說。
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吉姆·克萊伯恩:讓我們給當選總統拜登100天時間,他需要用這段時間來安排自已的議事日程並進行運作。也許我們會在那之後提交彈劾條款。
斯奈爾:100天是非常長的一段時間。可能是川普卸任後很久。而且,基於我之前提到的種種理由,民主黨人想繼續推進彈劾。但這給拜登創造了一個非常複雜的政治時刻,他試圖向前邁進,推動國家前進。
莫斯利:節目還有30秒時間,這一切發生時,我們正在為喬·拜登的就職典禮做準備。人們對安全有何擔心?
斯內爾:沒錯,人們仍然感到擔憂。國會大廈現在有點像堡壘,不僅有圍欄,還有部署在這裡的國民警衛隊。現在有一個審查過程。但人們嚴重關切的是,國會大廈對於拜登政府來說是否完全安全。我們得知,目前有關部門確實在努力加強安全,並採取一切可能的預防措施。
莫斯利:以上是NPR駐國會記者凱爾西·斯內爾帶來的報導,謝謝你。
斯內爾:謝謝你們邀請我。
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重點講解:
1. descend on (大批人)突然到來,突然造訪;
Hundreds of football fans descended on the city.
數百名足球迷蜂擁入城。
2. bring up 提出;
Instead of staying in the here and now, you bring up similar instances from the past.
你沒有緊扣眼前所發生的事,而是只提出了一些過去的類似事例。
3. except for 除了;除…之外;唯有;
Everyone was late, except for Richard.
除了理察,其他所有人都遲到了。
4. when it comes to 談到;涉及;
When it comes to cooking, I'm not in her league.
提到烹飪,我的水平遠比不上她。