印度比中國強大嗎,印網友:我們IT、醫療、寶萊塢和太空更強

2021-02-20 三泰虎

Is India stronger than China?(2)

印度比中國強大嗎?(2)

 

Quora讀者的評論:

Shreya Kashyap, studied at Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra

Originally Answered: Is India more powerful than China after getting membership of MTCR and NSG 2016?

This is rather a very unrelated comparison. It’s like expecting  second rank if we didn’t get the first and petulantly hoping that we are  better than the first rank-holder atleast in some respect. I believe  that both are two different things. We needed membership of the two  regimes for two different reasons.

MTCR - i) for the state-of-the-art technology in the field of  rockets, UAVs with an eye on Make-In-India campaign in the area of  defence.

ii) high-end cryogenic technology from Russia to enhance our space exploration (i.e., capacity-building for ISRO).

iii) significant foreign reserve with sale of our own technologies like BrahMos missile.

But this doesn’t serve the purpose of NSG membership which India hopes would -

i) bring investment in our civil nuclear space programme.

ii) swifter sale of nuclear fuels like Uranium to boost our  civil nuclear capacity. We have signed civil nuclear deals with various countries in line with the 2005 waiver. Yet countries like Australia,  Namibia are hesitant to sell given our no desire to sign NPT and  continued deferment of NSG membership. Alongside Uranium, we also need  the supply of Plutonium to seed the III-stage Advanced Heavy Water  Reactor which uses leftover from II-stage Fast Breeder Reactor and  Uranium-Thorium MOX.

Here, one-upping China in terms of MTCR membership is nothing more  than a psychological edge. China has been constantly denied the  membership due to its export-control standards and involvement with  North Korea’s nuclear programme. Knowing China, it already has  distinguished nuclear programme in the world. So, gaining MTCR  membership versus its support to Pakistan and North Korean nuclear  programme is probably a clever balancing act of China to gain  one-upmanship in the field of nuclear capabilities and international  diplomacy.

最初的問題是:2016年加入MTCR(飛彈及其技術控制制度)和NSG(核供應國集團)後,印度是否比中國更強大?

這是一個無釐頭的比較。這就像如果沒能獲得第一名,我們就希望能拿第二名,並且自以為是地認為我們至少在某些方面比第一名更好。我相信這兩者是兩碼事。出於兩個不同的原因,我們需要成為這兩個組織的成員。

MTCR - i)印度國防領域的印度製造運動需要火箭、無人機領域最先進的技術。

ii)來自俄羅斯的高端低溫技術,能增強我國的空間探索能力(比如ISRO的運載能力)。

iii)出售我們自己的技術,如布拉莫斯飛彈,能帶來大量的外匯儲備。

但這並不符合印度希望成為核供應國集團成員的目的:

i)為我們的民用核空間計劃帶來投資。

ii)加快鈾等核燃料銷售,提高民用核電能力。我們已根據2005年的棄權書與各國籤署了民用核協議。但因為我們沒有籤署《不擴散核武器條約》的意願,還推延核供應國集團的成員資格,澳大利亞、納米比亞這樣的國家對出售核武器猶豫不決。除了鈾,我們還需要供應鈽來為推進III級先進重水反應堆,該反應堆使用了II級快中子增殖反應堆和鈾釷氧化物的剩餘物。

在MTCR成員國資格方面超過中國只不過是一種心理優勢。由於出口控制標準和參與朝鮮核計劃,中國一直被拒絕加入該組織。但中國的核計劃已經在世界上處於領先地位了。因此,獲得MTCR成員國資格與中國對巴基斯坦和朝鮮核計劃的支持可能是中國在核能力和國際外交領域取得領先地位的一個聰明的平衡舉措。

 

Gaurav Kishore, lives in Sydney, Australia

It’s a very broad question - so depends upon benchmark. For example -  stronger on happiness index , democratic values , military might ,  industrial output , trade deficit, education ( graduates ready for  industry) , productivity, per capita income , infrastructure, life  expectancy, medical science, work ethics , human rights and so on.

Clearly on a few of above parameters, India might be leading but it  doesn’t imply India is stronger than China . Howver , in modern times,  it’s the economic and quality of life related benchmarks are usually  used to measure prosperity of a country and people. Unfortunately none  of these two country perform well in evenness of wealth . As result , a large number of people on both these countries are prone to exploitation  and inhuman conditions. I feel that even in multinational companies  based in these country employees suffer servitude and exploitation which  impacts their work life balance .

So the right question should be : what India and China can do to  achieve inclusive growth? In times when US role as global leader is  diminishing , both India and China should work hard to get their mutual disputes resolved and take more role in global leadership.

譯文來源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/47423.html  譯者:Joyceliu

這是一個非常寬泛的問題,因此取決于衡量的基準是什麼。例如,在幸福指數、民主價值觀、軍事實力、工業產出、貿易逆差、教育(畢業生為工業做好準備)、生產力、人均收入、基礎設施、預期壽命、醫學、職業道德、人權等方面哪國更強。

顯然,在上述幾個方面,印度可能處於領先地位,但這並不意味著印度就比中國強大了。在現代,與經濟和生活質量相關的基準通常用來衡量一個國家和人民的繁榮。不幸的是,這兩個國家的貧富差距都很大。因此,這兩個國家的許多民眾都容易受到剝削和不人道的情況。我覺得即使是在這些國家的跨國公司,員工也會受到奴役和剝削,影響他們的工作和生活平衡。

因此,這個問題應該這麼問:印度和中國能為實現包容性增長做些什麼?在美國作為全球領導者的地位正在下降的時候,印度和中國都應該努力解決彼此的爭端,在全球領導中發揮更大的作用。

 

Tejwinder Singh, A keen learner.

Originally Answered: China vs. India which is more powerful on economical and political Basis?

Economically - China is stronger. The size of their economy and  reserves is almost 10 times India's. China's manufacturing surpass India  exponentially. Even surging forward into services sector which is a  cause of worry for India.

 

International sphere:

China has an edge in Geopolitical sphere due to its economic and  military might that is second to USA only and will surpass in not too  long a time. Size of the country and its geographical position also  makes it strategically important. India is also not lagging behind by  much and is resurgent to find space for itself there among the topshots.  Soft skill projection via culture and a fast emerging economy , no one  can ignore. India is seen as a counter force to China in the region and  is trying hard to get a permanent UNSC seat.

最初的問題是:中國和印度哪個在經濟和政治基礎上更強大?

經濟上—中國更強大。他們的經濟規模和外匯儲備幾乎是印度的10倍。中國的製造業指數超過印度。就連服務業的迅猛發展也讓印度感到擔憂。

國際環境:中國的經濟和軍事實力僅次於美國,不久就會超過美國,因此在地緣政治領域具有優勢。中國的面積和地理位置也使其具有戰略重要性。這就是為什麼中國是五常國家

印度也沒有落後太多,印度正在崛起,希望能在這些熱門國家中找到自己的一席之地。通過文化軟技能的展示和經濟的快速崛起,沒有人能忽視印度。印度被視為該地區能跟中國抗衡的勢力,正努力獲得聯合國安理會常任理事國席位。

 

Sunil Sunny, affiliate marketing at Online (2010-present)

Originally Answered: Is china is more powerful than india?

IN SOME WAYS INDIA IS STRONGER THAN CHINA, BUT IN SOME WAYS CHINA IS STRONG THAN INDIA.

Back in August of last year, TNI described why India’s economic  prospects are brighter than those of China, That judgment seems to have been confirmed by subsequent events. As we noted at the time, "When all  is said and done, the difference between India and China can be summed  up in one word: freedom."

India is now clearly outperforming the other emerging nations,  particularly China, a nation hobbled by a command economy and one of the  most corrupt political systems on the planet. 「As Brazil, Russia and  China hit hurdles, it’s the poorest member of Goldman Sachs Group Inc.’s  emerging-market group that’s proving a darling of global investors,」  BLOOMBERG NEWS reported in February. 「The International Monetary Fund is  predicting India will next year grow faster than each of its BRIC  counterparts for the first time since 1999.」

最初的問題是:中國比印度更強大嗎?

在某些方面印度比中國強,但在某些方面中國比印度強。

去年8月,TNI曾解釋過為什麼印度的經濟前景比中國更光明,這一判斷似乎已被隨後發生的事實所證實。正如我們當時所指出的,「印度和中國之間的差異可以歸結為一個詞:自由。」

印度現在的表現明顯超過了其他新興國家,尤其是中國。中國受到了計劃經濟和全球最腐敗政治體系之一的制約。彭博新聞社2月份報導說:「巴西、俄羅斯和中國遭遇障礙,事實證明,巴西是高盛集團新興市場集團中最貧窮的成員國,而這個新興市場集團正是全球投資者的寵兒。」「國際貨幣基金組織預計,印度明年的經濟增速將自1999年以來首次超過金磚四國。」

In January of this year, we noted that Western hopes of an economic  「rebalancing」 by China, from state-directed investment to a demand pull economy based upon private consumer activity, was without basis

India, on the other hand, has not needed to stoke private demand  because it already has a vibrant private-sector economy, albeit one that  still struggles with bureaucracy and official corruption on a large  scale. Yet even with all of India’s structural problems, the fact that  its people are free to compete economically and express themselves  politically puts them light years ahead of their counterparts in  authoritarian China.

Instead of rebalancing its economy to greater consumer consumption,  China seems instead to be heading toward a 「new normal」 of slower  growth. While China’s official statistics suggest that the country met  exactly the requisite target of 7.5 percent GDP, other indicators  indicate that the years of artificial growth predicated on massive  government spending on infrastructure is coming to an end.

今年1月,我們注意到,西方希望中國實現經濟「再平衡」——從國家主導的投資轉向以私人消費為基礎的需求拉動型經濟——是沒有根據的。

另一方面,印度不需要刺激私人需求,因為它已經擁有一個充滿活力的私人經濟,儘管這個經濟仍在與大規模的官僚主義和官員腐敗作鬥爭。然而,儘管存在結構性問題,印度人民在經濟上可以自由競爭,在政治上可以表達自己的觀點,這一事實讓他們比中國領先了數光年。

中國似乎正走向增長放緩的「新常態」,而不是通過擴大消費來實現經濟再平衡。儘管中國官方統計數據顯示,中國實現了7.5%的GDP增長目標,但其他指標表明,以政府大規模基礎設施支出為基礎的多年人為增長即將結束。

One of the key factors driving economic growth is population, a  factor that is most visible in the United States, which has seen  population growth fall from 1.6 percent in the years following WWII to  just over 0.5 percent today. Many experts note that the big change in  the future will be the slow growth in population in many nations as  fertility rates decline and the average age of the populations in these nations rises. While the working-age population of China is set to peak  in a decade and then decline, India’s population is going to continue to  expand.

When you combine the advantage of a dynamic free society with strong population growth, the economic case for India becomes compelling. The World Bank estimates that India will grow at 7.5 percent in 2015 vs.  estimates several points lower, and that growth is poised to accelerate,  as policy changes gather momentum to unlock needed infrastructure  investments.

推動經濟增長的一個關鍵因素是人口,這一因素在美國最為明顯,美國的人口增長率從二戰後的1.6%下降到今天的0.5%多一點。許多專家指出,隨著生育率下降和人口平均年齡上升,許多國家人口增長緩慢將是未來的重大變化。中國的勞動年齡人口將在10年內達到頂峰,隨後下降,而印度的人口將持續增長。

當你把一個充滿活力的自由社會的優勢與強勁的人口增長結合起來時,印度的經濟前景就令人信服了。世界銀行估計,印度2015年的經濟增速將達到7.5%,而此前的預測則要低幾個基點。隨著政策變化為必要的基礎設施投資積聚動力,印度的經濟增速有望加快。

 

Anonymous

Originally Answered: China or India, who is stronger?

China is definitely stronger in terms of economy,military. But there are some areas where India is always better then any place in the world.

Demographics: We know that population of India can be liability. But Government is aware of the problem that it may cause in coming years.We  are implementing policies to produce more goods and services and to  create more job.Make in India is an initiative.And there are more people  to work.

Judiciary: I can give you 100 examples why judiciary of India cant be compared with any country in the world.

最初的問題是:中國和印度,誰更強大?

中國在經濟和軍事方面無疑更強大。但在某些領域,印度比世界上任何地方都要出色。

人口:我們知道印度的人口是一個負擔。但政府意識到這可能在未來幾年引發問題。我們正在實施一些政策,生產更多的商品和服務,創造更多的就業機會。「印度製造」就是其中一項運動。還有更多的人需要工作。

司法系統:我可以給你100個例子,為什麼印度的司法系統是世界上任何一個國家都比不上的。

 

Dipendu Shukla, I am an Indian.

Originally Answered: Is India more powerful than China? How?

No India is not at all more powerful than China . China is definitely Stronger .

China has better Economy and Military . China has very well organized  and more efficient Government . China is homogenous in terms of  Population Ethnicity .(90-94% Han) Which makes it a very stable country .

The only thing india is better than China at is Population Pyramid  and structure . Due to China's rigid one child policy and rapid  Industrialization and urbanization . Birth rates in China have fallen  significantly . Which are now below 2/1000 . Which means that With in  next decade China's population will start to decline .

While India's Birth rates have fallen more gradually and will not have huge impact on Population Pyramid .

Now why is population pyramid important ?

Because over next decades China will not have enough manpower to sustain it's growth . While India will have that Advantage .

That is why our PM Modi emphasizes on Our country being youngest .  Because that is the greatest Advantage which will make India more  powerful than china in next 25-30 years .

Let's hope we will get to see those days !

最初的問題是:印度比中國更強大嗎?怎麼說?

不,印度並不比中國更強大。中國無疑更為強大。

中國有更好的經濟和軍事實力。中國有很好的組織秩序和更高效的政府。中國的人口是同質的(90-94%是漢族),這使中國成為一個非常穩定的國家。

印度唯一優於中國的是人口金字塔和結構。由於中國嚴格的獨生子女政策和快速的工業化和城市化進程。中國的出生率大幅下降。現在已低於2/1000。這意味著在未來十年,中國人口規模將開始下降。

而印度的出生率將下降得更為緩慢,不會對人口金字塔產生巨大影響。

為什麼人口金字塔很重要?

因為在未來幾十年,中國將沒有足夠的人力來維持經濟增長。而印度將擁有這一優勢。

這就是為什麼我們的莫迪總理總是強調我們的國家是最年輕的國家。因為這是印度最大的優勢,將使印度在未來25-30年趕超中國。

希望我們能見證那一天的到來!

 

Prateekeshwar Singh Khichi, studied at Jaypee University of Engineering and Technology

if you are asking about the present then

NO INDIA IS NOT STRONGER THAN CHINA IN ANY FIELD EXCEPT IT,MEDICAL,BOLLYWOOD,SPACE PROGRAM

here are some fact about both nation

before 19 century both countries are in the top 2 in sharing  percentage of gdp of world and among which 70 % time india was on first rank

so in past india was stronger

so by seeing growth of indian economy and majority of population as youngster no doubt india will be far stronger than china.

NOTE-india was always stronger than the any of the country in the  world but was invaded and became a poor nation due to lack of unity  among indian.

so i request you all india be unite , be courageous we will defeat china and the rest of the world in long run.

JAI HIND

如果你問的是現在,那麼答案是:

不,印度除了IT、醫療、寶萊塢和太空項目,在其他領域都沒有中國強大

以下是關於這兩個國家的一些事實

19世紀以前,中印兩國在全球GDP中所佔比例均居世界前兩名,其中70%的時間印度位居第一,所以過去印度更為強大。

如果只看印度經濟的增長速度和高比例的年輕人口,毫無疑問印度將比中國強大得多。

註:印度一直比世界上任何國家都強大,但由於印度人之間缺乏團結,印度被侵略、淪為一個貧窮的國家。

所以我在這裡請求大家,所有的印度人團結起來,勇敢起來,從長遠來看,我們將打敗中國和世界其他國家。

印度必勝!

 

Brien K Johnson, Asst. Teacher (2015-present)

Originally Answered: China or India, who is stronger?

China, no second thoughts about it, and it's going to stay that way at least for the next decade.

However, that doesn't mean China will be able to successfully bully  India or get away scot-free should it wish to hurt India or unfairly  jeopardize its progress.

The bigger question which should be asked is, "How can India become stronger?" What are its strength.

Same goes for demography and demand, they are our strengths and  weaknesses depending on our ability to effectively capitalize/exploit  them.

India must at all times look to remain militarily ready to defend  itself against an unprovoked Chinese attack as well as intrusion, or be able to stave off damage in such an event.

最初的問題是:中國和印度,誰更強大?

當然是中國,用腳趾頭想想就知道了,至少在接下來的十年裡,中國還會保持這種狀態。

然而這並不意味著,如果中國想傷害印度或不公平地阻礙印度的進步,它就能成功地霸凌印度,或逍遙法外。

應該問的更大的問題是,「印度如何才能變得更強大?」它有什麼力量。

人口和需求也是如此,它們是我們的優勢,但也可能是弱點,取決於我們能不能駕馭好。

印度必須始終保持軍事上的戒備,以抵禦中國的攻擊和入侵,或者在這種情況下避免損害。

 

Amoy Young, studied at The Unknown

India beats China hands down, in terms of human resources.

Just check how many CEOs of top-notch innovative companies are Indian  (mostly based in the US of course), and how much Silicon Vally is  staffed by Indians, compared to other ethnicities, Chinese included.

For India it’s a brain drain inevitably. It’s just human nature to  pursue a greener pasture. Nonetheless, it proves great potential of  Indians. If, if India is able to attract a fraction of their overseas  talents to launch their own start-ups back in India, the potential that is to be unleased is explosively enormous! It would become a powerhouse  of innovation to replace the US.

在人力資源方面,印度輕而易舉地擊敗了中國。

只要看看有多少頂尖創新公司的執行長是印度人(當然主要是在美國),矽谷有多少印度員工,而包括中國人在內的其他種族的人有多少。

對印度來說,這是不可避免的人才流失。追求更好的生活環境是人類的天性。儘管如此,這證明了印度人的巨大潛力。如果,如果印度能夠將他們一小部分海外人才吸引回印度,在印度創辦自己的初創企業,那麼釋放出來的潛力將大得驚人!它將成為取代美國的創新引擎。

 

Vipin Suri, Teacher as Volunteer at SamarpanFoundation (2016-present)

Originally Answered: Who is more powerful, India or China?

China is way far more powerful than india ,their economy is 6 times  bigger ,per capita is nearing 10k$ !!having said it !!India has  international community with it ,it is largest arms buyer in the world  ,we buy the best from the best ,whereas china produces its arms locally !!their army and arms are not tested in a sustained war !India on the  other side has been a very busy army fighting internally and  internationally for UN !!If its a short conflict china might lose ,if it  lingers china might have the advantage ,they have much deeper pocket !!

最初的問題是:誰更強大,印度還是中國?

中國比印度強大得多,他們的經濟規模是印度的6倍,人均收入接近1萬美元!印度有國際社會的支持,它是世界上最大的武器進口國,我們從最強的國家購買最好的武器,而中國自己生產武器!他們的軍隊和武器沒有在持續的戰爭中經受過考驗!而印度是一支非常忙碌的軍隊,在國內外為聯合國而戰!!如果爆發短期的衝突,中國可能會輸,如果戰爭持久不休,中國可能更有優勢,他們的資金更為雄厚!

 

Jonathan Buttall, former Retired Professional in Behavioral Health Field at Private Sector; Public Sector.

Originally Answered: How can India be powerful than China?

 It would have to practice population control, and has generations to  catch up on; it has the most poverty of any country and will soon have  more people then China with a fraction of the size. Incentives for the  smartest professionals to stay in the country are needed; India has a great wealth of brilliant people in every field; but many of them live now in the US and Europe!

India already has a powerful and well trained military and a Nuclear Triad. It has many brilliant minds in all professional fields. But to  compete, it has to deal with the massive poverty, overpopulation, weak  government and 「Brain drain」

最初的問題是:印度怎麼能比中國強大?

印度必須實行人口控制,而且需要幾代人的努力;印度擁有世界上最多的貧窮人口,而且印度人口很快就會超過中國。印度必須鼓勵最聰明的專業人士留在印度;印度在各個領域都有大量優秀的人才;但他們中的許多人現在都生活在美國和歐洲!

印度已經擁有一支強大而訓練有素的軍隊和一個核三合會。印度在各個專業領域都有許多優秀的人才。但要想與中國競爭,它必須應對大規模的貧困、人口過剩、政府無能和「人才流失」等問題。

 

Adar Carde, Wall Street

Indian GDP = $2 trillion;

Chinese GDP = $11 trillion;

Google "National IQ Scores"

India = 82;

Pakistan = 84;

and China = 100;

Google "Cars per 1000 people"

India = 18;

Pakistan = 18;

and China = 113;

Google "Guns per 100 people"

India = 4.2;

China = 4.9;

and Pakistan = 11.6;

Google "Hunger Index"

India = 21;

Pakistan = 19;

and China = 5;

Google "Middle Class Population"

India = 1.8%;

Pakistan = 3.6%;

and China = 8.3%;

Google "Paupers in India China"

China = 25 million

India = 268 million

印度GDP = 2萬億美元;

中國GDP = 11萬億美元;

谷歌搜索「國民智商得分」

印度= 82;

巴基斯坦= 84;

中國= 100;

谷歌搜索"每千人車輛保有率"

印度= 18;

巴基斯坦= 18;

中國= 113;

谷歌搜索「百人配槍率」

印度= 4.2;

中國= 4.9;

巴基斯坦= 11.6;

谷歌搜索「飢餓指數」

印度= 21;

巴基斯坦= 19;

中國= 5;

谷歌搜索「中產階級人口」

印度= 1.8%;

巴基斯坦= 3.6%;

中國= 8.3%;

谷歌搜索「印度和中國的窮人數量」

中國= 2,500萬

印度= 2.68億

 

Avinash, Probationary Officer at State Bank of India

Originally Answered: Is India stronger than China now?

Yes, India is very strong now. So strong that a third country like  the USA can direct India as to whom to do trade with, whom to buy oil  from, whom to buy defence equipment from. USA even gives policy  directives to us and we run to USA to beg permission for S400 deal. NSA was in USA for this.

India is soo soo strong.

Sarcasm aside, strength is relative and depends on perspective.  Militarily: offensive side we are not strong. Defensive: we can hold our  own ground.

Diplomatically: No one can stand against Daddy Amreeka except Russia, China and Iran.

Economically: China has more forex than India’s entire GDP. And  Chinese forex is not based on Capital Account surplus. They have a  current account surplus as well which India doesnt have.

最初的問題是:印度現在比中國強大嗎?

是的,印度現在非常強大。強大到連美國這樣的第三方國家都能對印度要跟誰進行貿易,向誰採購石油,跟誰購買國防設備指手劃腳。美國甚至還給我們政策指令,而我們就趕緊跑去找美國,苦苦哀求美國同意我們S400的交易。國安局去美國就是為了這件事。

印度簡直太強大了。

撇開諷刺不談,力量是相對的,取決於視角。軍事上:我們作為進攻方實力並不強。防守:我們可以守住自己的地盤。

外交辭令:除了俄羅斯、中國和伊朗,沒有人能與美國老爹對抗。

經濟方面:中國的外匯儲備超過了印度的GDP總量。而且,中國的外匯並非基於資本帳戶盈餘。他們還有印度沒有的經常帳戶盈餘。

 

Nikhil Kulkarni, worked at HCL Technologies, Chennai

Originally Answered: China or India, who is stronger?

I guess both India and China are equally growing stronger in terms of  economy, energy sector, infrastructure wise,technologically and of  course in terms of military might. while china's development might be a little faster as compared to India's since its a communist nation but  India has its own way of development which is more efficient,long term  and is appreciated and liked by the people of this country.China is  known for its mass production of stuffs and is more concerned about  quantity rather than quality where as India always focusses on quality  as opposed to quantity.India might not be as quick as China in terms of production but it sure is efficient.so I dont think comparing India and  China as to who is stronger would be fair since both the nations have their strong and weak points in terms of growth and development

最初的問題是:中國和印度,誰更強大?

我想印度和中國在經濟、能源、基礎設施、技術以及軍事實力方面都越來越強大。雖然中國的發展可能比印度更快一些,但印度有自己的發展方式,更有效率,更長遠,更受這個國家的人民欣賞和喜愛。中國以大規模生產而聞名,而且更關注數量而不是質量,因為印度總是注重質量而不是數量。印度的生產速度可能沒有中國快,但肯定是高效的。所以我不認為對比印度和中國誰更強大是公平的,因為兩個國家在增長和發展方面都有各自的優缺點。

 

Samson Hiwale

Originally Answered: Who is more powerful, India or China?

India is more powerful. Yes China has a larger army but that doesn't make them stronger. The Indian Army is trained to fight in all worst  possible geographical conditions (Deserts, Hills, Forests). Their  soldiers also have more war experience compared to the Chinese soldiers.  Just having big numbers won’t win you any war you would rather need to  have Courage, Determination and Fighting Spirit which the Indian Army definitely has more than anyone. I know this might raise a few eyebrows  but this is my personal opinion..Each to their own. Peace out!

最初的問題是:誰更強大,印度還是中國?

印度更強大。是的,中國有更強大的軍隊,但這並不能使他們更強大。印度軍隊接受了嚴格訓練,可以在所有可能的最惡劣的地理條件下(沙漠、丘陵、森林)作戰。印度士兵也比中國士兵有更多的戰爭經驗。擁有龐大的軍隊並不能讓你贏得任何戰爭,你需要的是勇氣、決心和戰鬥精神,而印度軍隊絕對比任何人都更有勇氣、決心和戰鬥精神。我知道這可能會讓一些人感到驚訝,但這只是我個人的觀點。各人觀點各不相同。

 

Prabhakar Rallabhandi, Consultant-Steel Industry at Independent (2014-present)

I can’t help noticing that Chinese origin people think India is  stronger and Indians think China is stronger . China is already  competing with US almost on near equal terms while India has a long way to go

In reality China is ahead of India today by 4 times economically and also ahead in defence strength . This gap may take more than 3 decades to be bridged if at all possible . However there may be a few areas in which India may have performed better but that would be an inappropriate  comparison .

Anyone can see the data freely avilable in public domain about both  countries and understand the strength of Chinese economy . The world can  not deal with too many Emerging super powers simultaneously. China grew  massively for more than 3 decades and now it is India』 s turn. Later it  may be Brazil or Indonesia or South Africa or Mexico .

我發現,中國人認為印度更強大,而印度人認為中國更強大。中國已經在幾乎平等的條件下與美國平起平坐,而印度還有很長的路要走。

事實上,今天中國在經濟上領先印度4倍,在國防實力上也領先印度。如果可能的話,彌合這一差距可能需要30多年的時間。然而,印度可能在一些領域表現得更好,但這種比較實在懸殊太大。

任何人都可以自由獲取有關兩國的公開數據,了解中國經濟的實力。世界不可能同時承受太多的新興超級大國。中國在過去30多年裡取得了巨大的增長,現在輪到印度了。之後可能會輪到巴西、印度尼西亞、南非或墨西哥。

 

 

Mahernoz Daruwala, works at Tata Consultancy Services

Why two powerful nations can only yield a comparison attitude?   Instead of comparison i believe co-operation among nations is good for   the whole region.

When the British Raj left, they introduced so much complexity that   there was no scope of peace for India, Pakistan and China. Many wars   have been fought due to the complexity introduced by British Raj when   they left India. I believe its the revenge they took by dividing   countries in the name of religion and keeping a particular region   disputed, due to this which India-Pak is facing yet today.

I believe now its high time, let all India, Pakistan, China,   Bangladesh, Srilanka, Myanmar, Burma, Nepal etc. all sit together in a   meeting and resolve the differences once and for all. Let all do this in   good will without taking undue advantage, let’s have equal respect for   even the smallest neighbor when we are doing this work of peace.

There are many benefits to this, the countries will open up for more  trade and commerce and life would be better for all these countries   which have remained poor due to the very high cost of maintaining an   army meant to protect against each other.

Look at Europe, all the border differences are resolved, they have   moved so much far ahead than South Asia, once upon a time, south asia   was the richest part in the world.

Where have we got ourselves stuck instead?

為什麼兩個強大的國家之間只能比較?我認為國家間的合作對整個地區是有好處的,不該相互比較。

當英國統治結束後,印度、巴基斯坦和中國就沒有和平的空間了。很多戰爭都是由於英國離開印度時遺留下來的複雜局面。我相信這是他們以宗教的名義分裂國家,並保持某一特定地區的爭議所採取的報復行動,這正是印巴今天所面臨的問題。

我認為現在是時候讓印度、巴基斯坦、中國、孟加拉國、斯裡蘭卡、緬甸、緬甸、尼泊爾等所有國家坐下好好談談,一勞永逸地解決分歧。讓我們所有人都懷著善意去做這件事,而不是利用不正當的優勢,當我們在做這項和平工作時,我們對即使是最小的鄰國也應當給予同等的尊重。

這樣做有很多好處,這些國家將開放更多的貿易和商業空間,這些國家的生活水平將會提高,因為要供養一隻互相戒備的軍隊,成本非常高,所以這些國家還是很窮。

看看歐洲,所有的邊界分歧都得以解決後,他們現在比南亞領先了這麼多,要知道南亞曾經是世界上最富裕的地區。

我們把自己困在哪裡了?

 

Kottoor Sukumarapillai Padmakumar, worked at NODAL OFFICER IT INITIATIVES, GOVT. OF KERALA

As per various forcastes It is stated that China will be the largest  economy by 2020, while India will be third largest at that time. By the   year 2030 India will replace America and become second largest economy   and by 2040 India will replace China and become the largest economy.   Before 2000 years the scenario was the the same.The following factors   are in favour of India.

1.A very large youth population.

2.Largest democracy in the world.

3.Largest English speaking population in the world.

4.Indigenous as well as aquired western technologies.

5.Great spirituality and highly tolerent people.

6.World renowned civilisation.

7.Large number of billionaire pooled rich people.

8.Currently third largest economy as per peoples purchasing power.

9.Currently 7th largest economy in GDP.

10.Very reliant and developed aero space technology.

11.Very strong working /settled community in developed economies.

12.A number of successful CEOs in large multi national companies

13.People considered as very good IQ.

14.Nearly 40% of NASA scientists are Indian.

By virtue of the above factors it is not a very difficult task to surpass China in coming decades.

根據各種預測,到2020年,中國將成為最大經濟體,屆時印度將成為第三大經濟體。到2030年,印度將取代美國成為世界第二大經濟體,到2040年,印度將取代中國成為世界第一大經濟體。2000年以前的情況也是如此。以下因素對印度有利。

1.年輕人口非常多。

2.世界上最大的民主國家。

3.世界上說英語的人口最多。

4.本土和西方技術都有。

5.偉大的精神和高度寬容的人民。

6.世界聞名的文明。

7.大量億萬富翁匯集了富人。

8.按購買力計算,目前是世界第三大經濟體。

9.目前是GDP第七大經濟體。

10.非常可靠發達的航空航天技術。

11.在發達經濟體中有非常強大的工作/定居社區。

12.擁有許多成功的跨國公司執行長

13.印度人被認為智商很高。

14.將近40%的NASA科學家是印度人。

基於以上因素,在未來幾十年趕超中國並不是一件非常困難的任務。

 

Kalyan Mannava, From the land of vedas

NO.

China has a stronger military, and waaay stronger economy than us. We   are not a superpower yet, while China is. They have also succeeded in   getting rid of many evils that we are still suffering from. That being   said, are you asking who would win in an all out war? Neither would.   Nuclear deterrence would ensure mutual destruction. Perhaps India will   suffer much more, but have no doubts China will too.

What I don’t understand is this obsession with China that’s lately on   rise in us. Many Chinese I have interacted with (not all) want to be on  friendly terms with us, can’t we return the favor already? India and   China didn’t come into existence in 1947 or 1949. The two great   civilizations respected each other’s boundaries for thousands of years.

The Asian century is here, and we have two options: Grow together to  reach our lost glory, or perish together. Take your pick, mate.

不可能。

中國有更強大的軍隊,經濟也比我們更強大。我們還不是超級大國,中國已經是。他們還成功地消除了我們仍在遭受的許多痛苦。你問的是誰會在一場全面戰爭中獲勝嗎?印度還是不可能獲勝。核威懾會讓我們兩敗俱傷。也許印度會遭受更大的罪,但毫無疑問中國也一樣會遭罪。

我不明白的是,最近我們對中國越來越痴迷了。我接觸過的很多中國人(不是所有人)都想和我們友好相處,難道我們不能給他們善意的回報嗎?印度和中國不是在1947年或1949年才出現的。這兩個偉大的文明數千年來相互尊重彼此的國界。

屬於亞洲的世紀已經來臨,我們有兩種選擇:要麼共同成長,共同找回我們失去的榮耀,要麼共同滅亡。你選吧,夥計。

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