薩古魯:業力與記憶

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Sadhguru: Now the essence of all this is, first thing is to understand the nature of how existence is happening. Either you can look at this (Gestures) or you can look at the atom or you can look at the universe. If you want to look at the universe, it is complex, it is difficult because you don’t have a gallery seat, you know. There is no… it is not like a stadium you can sit somewhere and watch the whole universe, very difficult. You can only see it in pieces.
Sadhguru(薩古魯):那麼,所有這些本質上都是,首先要明白存在到底是如何發生的。你要麼來觀察這個(指自己),要麼去觀察原子,或者去觀察宇宙。如果你想去觀察宇宙,那很複雜,也很困難,因為你沒有一個看臺座位。沒有……這不像是在體育場裡,你可以坐在某處觀察整個宇宙,那非常困難。你只能零零星星地觀察。


If you want to watch an atom, nobody has seen an atom, do you know this? Do you know this? Even in a super electron microscope, you can’t see an atom. We have observed its activity but we have never seen an atom as such, but we have broken it. We are capable of breaking things that even we cannot see, that’s our… we are very proud of this these days. (Laughs) We can break anything. We can make it or not is a questionable thing, but we can break anything we want. Even if we cannot see it, we can break it. Now what you see and what you do not see itself is a very dicey thing. In the sense, what is it that you can see? Right now, can you see my hand?

如果你想觀察一個原子——沒人見過原子,你們知道嗎?你們知不知道?即使用超級電子顯微鏡,你也看不到原子。我們觀察過它的活動,但我們從未見到過原子本身,但我們卻打破了它。甚至連我們看不到的東西我們都能打破,這是我們的……我們現在對此非常引以為豪。我們能打破任何東西,我們能不能造出來是個未知數,但我們想打破什麼就能打破什麼。即便看不到,我們也能打破它。而且,你看到什麼和看不到什麼,這本身也是很不確定的。這麼來說吧,什麼是你能看到的呢?現在,你們能看到我的手嗎?


Meditators: Yes.

學員們:是。


Sadhguru: Yes. You can see my hand only because my hand stops light. If my hand did not stop this light, if it allowed light to pass through you wouldn’t see this hand. Yes? Or in other words, right now your visual apparatus can see only those things which stop light. Anything that allows light through, you cannot see it. You cannot see light itself first of all. Can you see the light that is here? No. Only whatever stops light you can see it. What does not stop light, you cannot see it. Tch… Very bad, isn't it? You must be able to see all those things which allow light to pass through because they are important things. But right now, your visual apparatus are trained to see or capable of seeing only that which stops light. So the whole process of seeing life the way it is means first of all, evolving an eye, a thoughtless eye, an eye which is free of thought. When I say free of thought, it is free from the taint of memory.
Sadhguru(薩古魯):是。你們之所以能看到我的手,是因為它擋到了光。如果我的手沒有擋到光,如果它能讓光透過去,你們就不會看到這隻手。對嗎?或者換句話說,現在你的視覺器官只能看到那些能擋住光的東西。任何能透光的東西你都看不到。首先你看不到光。你能看到這裡的光嗎?看不到。不管什麼東西,只有當它擋住光時你才能看到。任何擋不住光的東西,你都看不到。嘖……很糟糕,是不是?你得能看到所有那些能透光的東西,因為它們很重要。但現在,你的視覺器官被訓練得只能看到不透光的東西。因此,要做到「如實看待生命」所需的整個步驟是:首先要進化出一隻眼睛,一隻不帶任何念想的眼睛,一隻一念不生的眼睛。我說的一念不生,意思是不受記憶的玷汙。


Right now, these two eyes are heavily loaded with memory. See, you can see this if you see a group of people like this, if you just casually look like this, if the…among these hundreds of people, if there is one face that you are familiar with; you will see suddenly that face sticks out. Have you noticed this? Have you noticed this? You are going on a street, there’re hundred people standing there, your friend is among that. If you look here just this friend’s face is more clear than the rest of the faces because this eye works with memory. The more memory you have, the better it sees. No memory, it cannot see. Memory means an accumulated past. Memory means information.
現在,這雙眼睛充滿了記憶。那麼,你能發現這一點,如果你看到這樣一群人,如果你只是隨意這麼一看,如果在這幾百人裡,如果有一張你熟悉的面孔,你就會發現那張臉突然之間變得很惹眼。你們注意到這點沒有?你們注意到這點沒有?你去到一條街上,有幾百人站在那裡,你的朋友也在裡面。如果你看一下,你朋友的臉比所有其它的臉都要清晰,因為眼睛要靠記憶工作。你的記憶越多,眼睛就越看得見。要是沒有記憶,眼睛就什麼都看不見。


Memory means that which does not exist but acts out as if it does. Memories are more real than reality. Isn't it so? Yes or no? See I want you to understand, everything in your life is run by memory. Not just your computer stick everything in your life. When I say memory, it's not just what you carry here, (Gestures) your very body is a body of memory. Why if you eat a banana, it becomes a masculine body and if she eats a banana, it becomes a feminine body, is simply because of the memory that it contains, isn't it? The information that is stored in this body and that body is different. Same banana, it becomes a man; same banana, it becomes a woman.Yes or no? Hmm?

記憶意味著一個累積起來的過去。記憶意味著信息。記憶是一個雖然不存在,但表現得好像存在的東西。記憶比現實更加真實。是不是這樣?是不是?我希望你們明白,你生命中的一切都是記憶驅動的。不光是你的電腦儲存條,你生命中的任何東西都是這樣。我說的記憶,不僅指這裡攜帶的記憶(指頭部),連你的身體都是一個記憶體。之所以你吃一個香蕉,它會變為一個男性的身體,而她吃一個香蕉,則會變為一個女性的身體,就是因為身體所帶有的記憶,對不對?這個身體和那個身體裡所儲存的記憶是不一樣的。同樣的香蕉,在他那裡變成男人;同樣的香蕉,在她那裡則變成女人。是不是?嗯?


Meditators: Yes.

學員們:是。


Sadhguru: Or you’re eating different types of bananas? (Laughter) Same thing, same food if you eat, it is becoming one way. In one person, it is becoming dark skin. In another person, it’s becoming fair skin, how? The memory that you carry. Do you remember your great great great great great grandfather? You don’t, but his nose is sitting on your face. (Laughter) Your body remembers, isn't it? You may not have no idea who it was but your body remembers even today. A million years ago how your forefathers were, still it remembers, isn't it? So what you call as my body is just a body of memory.
Sadhguru(薩古魯):還是你們吃的是不同種類的香蕉?同樣的東西、同樣的食物,如果你吃了,它變成了一個樣子。在一個人那裡,它變成了深色皮膚。在另一個人那裡,它變成了淺色皮膚,怎麼會這樣的?是因為你攜帶的記憶的緣故。你記不記得你的曾曾曾曾曾祖父?你不記得,但他的鼻子現在卻長在你臉上。你的身體記得,對不對?你可能對他一無所知,但你的身體至今依然記得。一百萬年前,你的祖先是怎樣的,它仍然記得,是不是?所以你所說的我的身體只是一個記憶體。


And eyes are loaded with memory. An eye which is loaded with memory, an eye which is corrupted with memory cannot see anything the way it is. It will only see things as it is convenient because the software is working from inside. It will not allow you to see anything the way it is. This is what traditionally we are referring to as karma. It is there in your body, it is there in your energies, it is there in the way your chemical reactions happen, it is there in your brain, it is there in your mind, it is there in everything. In the very physical energy that you carry, there is memory because you will see each person’s energies behave differently from the other simply because of the type of memory it carries.

而眼睛也充滿了記憶。一個滿是記憶的眼睛,一個被記憶染汙的眼睛是無法如實看到任何東西的。它只會按自己習慣的方式看東西,因為軟體是從內部工作的。它不會讓你如實地看任何東西。這就是我們傳統上所說的karma(業力)。它存在於你的身體中,它存在於你的能量中,它存在於你的化學反應發生的方式中,它存在於你的大腦中,它存在於你的頭腦裡,它無處不在。你所攜帶的物質能量都有記憶,因為你會發現每個人的能量表現方式都和其他人的不同,這僅僅是能量所攜帶的記憶類型的緣故。


If you want to get rid of this, it’s a long process. And if you get rid of this, dismantling of the personality and the body will happen. So another way is to create a distance from it. Just hold it little away. When you want to play with it, you play with it. When you want to switch it off, you must be able to switch it off. So for this, an external view is needed. Right now your ears are loaded with memory, your eyes are loaded with memory, your tongue is loaded with memory.
如果你想擺脫它,那會是一個很漫長的過程。如果你擺脫了它,你的個性和身體就會消解。所以另一個辦法是跟它拉開一段距離。只是離開它一點。當你想跟它遊戲時,就跟它遊戲。當你不想再關注它時,你必須也能不再理睬它。要做到這一點的話,需要一個外部視角。現在你的雙耳充滿了記憶,你的雙眼充滿了記憶,你的舌頭也充滿了記憶。


Why… (Laughs) if you are born in Karnataka if you go to North India, food doesn’t taste good is because the tongue is loaded with memory. Yes or no? Have you suffered this or no? You went north and they said aloo bhaji, aloo… (Laughter) aloo mutter, anoo…aloo palak, aloo parotta, aloo-aloo aloo-aloo they said, you couldn’t stay there. (Laughs) Because your tongue is loaded with memory, it wants the same things back, otherwise it will suffer.

為什麼.如果你生在Karnataka (卡納塔克邦,位於南印度),然後去到北印度,你會覺得那裡的食物不好吃,是因為舌頭充滿了記憶。是不是?你們有沒有受過這種折磨?你去到北邊,然後他們說aloo bhaji(香辣土豆泥),aloo(土豆)…… aloo mutter(土豆燴青豆),aloo palak(土豆菠菜泥),aloo parotta(土豆飛餅),aloo, aloo, aloo, aloo (土豆土豆土豆土豆),你在那兒呆不下去。因為你的舌頭充滿了記憶,它想吃回同樣的東西,要不然就難受。


So what 「being loaded with memory」 means is a cocoon of the past is holding you. It will not allow you to even move into the present. A cocoon of the past holds you and you allow it to do this because it feels safe, it creates a cocoon. There is safety; but in safety, there is also imprisonment. You’re really safe if we lock you up in a safe, isn't it? But the problem is you can’t get out. That’s the whole problem. Walls that you build as self-protection they also become the walls of self-imprisonment.
所謂「充滿了記憶」,意思是「過去」這個繭包裹著你。它甚至不允許你進入到當下。「過去」這個繭包裹著你,而你允許它包裹是因為那樣感覺很安全,它創造了一個繭。在繭裡面很安全;但安全也意味著監禁。如果我們把你鎖在保險柜裡,你會非常安全,對不對?但問題在於你就出不去了。這就是整個問題所在。你建造的自我保護的圍牆也能成為自我囚禁的圍牆。


That is the nature of life. If you lock yourself from inside or outside, it’s the same thing. As long as you do not open the door, whether somebody locked you from outside or you locked yourself from inside, there is no difference. Anyway you are imprisoned, isn't it? At least… somebody locked you from outside, you can at least complain and scream. You locked yourself from inside, you can only be depressed, you cannot even scream. At whom will you scream?

生命就是這樣。不管你是從裡面還是從外面把自己鎖起來,都一樣。只要你沒打開門,無論是別人把你從外面鎖起來,還是你把自己從裡面鎖起來,二者並無區別。反正你就是被監禁的,是不是?至少……如果是別人從外面把你鎖起來,你至少還能抱怨和尖叫。但如果你從裡面把自己鎖起來,那你只能抑鬱,你連尖叫都不能。你要朝誰叫呢?


So this process of what we’re looking at is, the memory imprints itself on all levels right up to the elemental level. From the five elements which function here, from just after that memory’s work starts. So when we uttered the word karma, it is not one simple formula or it’s not …you know people are saying theory of karma; we are not talking about any theory. We are referring to a certain reality. Karma means memory - action and memory.
那麼,我們所看到的這個過程是,記憶在直到基本元素的所有層面都留下了印記。從在這裡運作的五大元素開始,從那之後,記憶的工作就開始了。所以當我們說karma(業力)這個詞的時候,它不是一個簡單的公式,也不是……大家都在談論karma(業力)的理論;我們不談任何理論。我們談的是某個事實。karma(業力)的意思是記憶——活動和記憶。


Past action exists only in the form of memory. Isn't it so? Yes? Memory not just what you carry here (Gestures); every cell in the body carries its own memory. Why one atom behaves differently from another atom though the same ingredients is, it has a memory. A hydrogen atom has one kind of memory, oxygen atom has another kind of memory - unless you mix them up, they will continue to behave like that. It is in a small circle, you are in a little larger circle; the universe is in a much larger circle but the same memory rules all of it. So when we said karma, we are not talking about some concept or philosophy, we are referring to a certain reality which is finding manifestation as who you are.

過去的活動只以記憶的形式而存在。是不是這樣?對嗎?不光是你這裡攜帶著記憶(指大腦);身體裡的每一個細胞都攜帶著自己的記憶。為什麼一個原子表現得和另一個原子不一樣,雖然它們的組成並無二致,是因為它們帶有記憶。氫原子帶有一種記憶,氧原子帶有另一種記憶——除非你把二者混合,否則它們會繼續按自己的方式表現下去。原子在一個小圈裡面,你在一個稍微大點的圈裡面;宇宙則在一個更為巨大的圈裡面。但一切都由同樣的記憶所主宰。因此,當我們說karma(業力)的時候,我們講的不是某個概念或某派哲學,我們指的是某個事實,而它正顯化成了這個「你」。


The very shape of your body is because of memory. If a bird eats a mango, it becomes a bird; if a worm eats a mango, it becomes a worm; if you eat a mango, you become a human being. Same mango, how many things it’s doing, depending upon what kind of memory it carries, isn't it? You…What you call as a seed, if you plant the same seed if you plant a seed in the same soil here you plant a mango tree, here you pan…plant an apple tree in the same soil, this (Gestures) will only produce apples, this (Gestures) will only produce mangoes.
連你身體的外形都是記憶造成的。如果鳥吃了芒果,芒果會變為一隻鳥;如果蟲子吃了芒果,芒果會變為一條蟲子;如果你吃了芒果,芒果會變為一個人。同樣的芒果,由於攝入者的記憶不同,看看它變成了多少東西,是不是?你稱作種子的東西,如果你把同樣的種子……如果你把種子種在同樣的土壤裡,你在這兒種棵芒果樹,在那兒種棵蘋果樹,種在同樣的土壤裡,這個只能結出蘋果,那個只能結出芒果。


I know there is a newspaper picture where a… you know a jackfruit has become bananas. That’s different. Yes, you saw this? Are you all from Bangalore or Devanahalli? (Laughter) No, you didn’t see this? A bunch of bananas are coming out of a jackfruit for some reason. (Laughs) That’s a freak. And that’s happened because of some mix up. We don’t know who did the mix up. (Laughs) But essentially if you… in the same soil if you plant an apple seed and a mango seed, this (Gestures) will only produce apples, this (Gestures) will only produce mangoes because seed is a certain amount of memory, isn't it? Whether it is a seed of a plant or your father’s seed which entered your mother’s womb, it is just memory and memory and memory. Isn't it so?

我知道有張新聞圖片,上面……一個菠蘿蜜變成了香蕉。那是另一回事。是的,你們都見過?你們都是從班加羅爾來的還是從Devanahalli來的?你們沒見到過嗎?一個菠蘿蜜裡面由於某些原因長出了一串香蕉。那是個怪物。是因為某種雜交才會那樣。我們不清楚是誰做的雜交。但基本上,在同樣的土壤裡,如果你種下一粒蘋果的種子和一粒芒果的種子,這個只會長出蘋果,這個只會長出芒果,因為種子也是某種記憶,是不是?不管是一粒植物種子,還是進到你母親子宮裡的你父親的種子,都是記憶、記憶、還是記憶。是不是這樣?


This is karma and this goes right back. Right up to the elemental level, everything is memory. Only the pure element is free from memory. So the idea, when we start, we’re starting off 『Bhutesha』 because that’s the most important thing that he mastered the elements. That’s why we bow down to him because… because he mastered the elements, he has an eye which has no memory. A taintless eye which sees everything just the way it is.
這就是karma(業力),它可以回溯,一直到基本元素層面,一切都是記憶。只有純粹的元素才沒有記憶。所以當我們開始時,我們是以Bhutesha(元素的主宰)開始的,因為他掌握了元素,這是至關重要的。那才是我們敬拜他的原因,因為他掌握了元素,他有一隻不帶任何記憶的眼睛。一隻清淨無染、如實看待一切的眼睛。


So yoga essentially means developing an eye which is not contaminated by memory, which simply sees. It does not see things the way your memory perverts it. It simply sees everything the way it is. This eye will see those things which do not stop light. Right now these two eyes can only see what stops light. If you start seeing something that does not stop light that means another dimension of the eye is beginning to function.

所以瑜伽本質上意味著,練出一隻不被記憶染汙的眼睛,能單純地去「看」。它不按你記憶扭曲的方式去看事物。它只是如實地看一切。這隻眼睛能夠看到透光的東西。現在這雙眼睛只能看到不透光的東西。如果你開始看到透光的東西,那就說明眼睛的另一個維度開始運作了。



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